To think that Mumsnet should clamp down on the scaremongering threads?

[callmeadoctor]

Thats it really, you come on Mumsnet and anxiety levels are ramped up. Surely thats not safe?

So why are you here then? why not go to that thread and tell them?

Um, I have been yes.

This thread is about MN clamping down on scaremongering.

I’m if the opinion that many people should be more scared, not less.

Though obviously ‘scaremongering’ is a loaded word and open to interpretation. Obviously I don’t support outright lies.

However I don’t believe, for example, that ‘look at what’s happening in Italy’ is scaremongering,

No one is denying that. The alternative is still letting the disease run rampage in that time.

You get that, right?

Have you read all my posts on this thread where I have explained exactly what I think/ hope will happen. Why are you rudely speaking to me like an idiot? How does that reduce the spread?

The point I made quite clearly you agree with. People are baffling, truly.

However I don’t believe, for example, that ‘look at what’s happening in Italy’ is scaremongering

I dont either. But thats not people are referring to. We are referring to lies and rumours and misinformation being spread as "truth".

We absolutely should look at Italy.

I think some people get a real kick out of the drama.

They absolutely are.

The people tat get it are indoors. Whilst I’m indoors I cannot possibly tell people outdoors not to be. I don’t even know why they’re outdoors; could be for all the acceptable reasons, could be they’re going to a party.

The best we can do, the only thing really, is to do the right thing ourselves.

Have you read all my posts on this thread where I have explained exactly what I think/ hope will happen

I haven’t read the whole thread no.

What I have read suggests you believe scientific advancement will help us. Great. I agree.

But nothing will be available in the short term, so given that, so you support SD measures or not, is what I’m asking?

@GoldenOmber

I hope you have managed to make your Dad stay at home. My Mum is overseas and as I can’t help her, it’s even harder to make her stay at home. All I can do is press her to get some food in now before it gets as bad there as here. She’s almost 80 as are all her friends and there’s no hand sanitiser or anything left. She’s in a retirement village and they’re not yet stopping groups etc. But she’s decided not to go to any except one exercise class. It’s a start.

Making people aware of the reality is not scaremongering. But that’s what people are trying to do by reporting threads & accusing people of scaremongering.

I’ve already answered regarding what I’d like people to do.

• stop accusing people if scaremongering just because they don’t like the post (unless it’s UBERSHITE. From FB 🤣)

And put social pressure on people in RL & on threads not to do things that put people in danger.

I’ve blocked groups and people on Facebook for this fear mongering shit. And I’ve hidden the CV topic but the fetishists are a determined bunch...there lots of bloody chain mail stuff going around too.

But that’s what people are trying to do by reporting threads & accusing people of scaremongering

NOPE! threads are being reported that contain dangerous misinformation and false facts. One person even asked for their own thread to be removed yesterday because she posted something that wasnt correct and then realised it was wrong and felt embarrassed. Those threads should be removed.

stop accusing people if scaremongering just because they don’t like the post

Whether or not people are actually doing that, nobody actually thinks they're doing that, so telling them to stop doing it isn't going to help much.

I think more people than you might believe already are putting pressure on their loved ones, texting dads like mine to say "stay at home! ffs! No not after you've popped out for a bit of shopping, NOW!" etc. It is frustrating seeing photos of people out for a pint but there have also been lots of photos of empty streets, especially streets that would usually be packed on a Saturday night. So loads of people ARE listening already, which is good.

I think my dad is finally listening to us but he's hundreds of miles away so he might just be humouring us. So frustrating.

I have clearly said we should follow the guidance to stem the short term spread. That is what we are being told to do by scientists so it goes without saying surely .

To actually state 'I do agree with the current government advice so that we don't have hospitals overrun with millions of people they don't know how to treat over the next couple of months' seems a bit kind of obvious but ^^there it is.

My point is about the people who think this alone will solve the problem, it won't. It is just one stage. And people do think that if we just all stay in until cases go to zero it'll be solved and that isn't what the scientists say. You may not think it, everyone in the thread may not think it but some do. A lot of people are blind to the negatives on health of what we are doing. So they think the more everyone totally locks themselves up the 'quicker' it will be solved and it isn't that easy.

Anyway off for a socially distant walk in the sunshine.

If people are posting on FB or here or anywhere else or texting /calling you can ask/tell/advise them not to go ahead with plans to meet up or ‘get the kids together’ making it socially ‘not the fine thing’ helps. Take away the ‘everyone else is’ factor!

mooboy anyone that chain emails me about anything gets told once that I don’t hold with that shit. Anyone who persist would get blocked, fortunately my friends are fast learners 😊

Urgh, I too, am getting fed up of the scaremongering going on.

Telling me repeatedly that we are all going to die is not helpful and it achieves nothing.

I'm fully aware this is very, very serious- posting photos of body bags piling up that arent even from CV in Italy and are from photos years ago is extremely unhelpful.

I agree with @Evilspiritgin: 'I dont need people reminding me every other minute" and I DO think people want others to feel like shit. They wouldnt do it otherwise.

My point is about the people who think this alone will solve the problem, it won't. It is just one stage

I have not seen a single person suggesting that SD will solve the problem alone.

I'm in East London and it's like an alternative universe here - streets and shops were as busy as ever yesterday when I popped out to fill a prescription. It was just like any other Saturday. There were a few people in masks and gloves but in general people really don't seem particularly concerned. My neighbour has just left his house with his two children, they all have tennis racquets and what looks like a picnic basket. His wife asked if DD wanted to pop round for a play date even though she is aware DD has had a dry cough all week

I'm opposed to scaremongering but FFS, something needs to shock people into taking this seriously.

something needs to shock people into taking this seriously

Unless the government impose proper lockdown measures this is what will happen. It happened in Italy too- just read the accounts. Thats why they had to tighten up and put the army on the streets because people dont listen.

This wishy washy half arsed in between method is utter crap. Either do a full lockdown or open everything up. What we are doing now is spreading the virus whilst simultaneously destroying the economy at the same time. We need to pick one to save and stick to it- lockdown properly for say, 3 weeks then relax things.

This wishy washy half arsed in between method is utter crap. Either do a full lockdown or open everything up. What we are doing now is spreading the virus whilst simultaneously destroying the economy at the same time. We need to pick one to save and stick to it- lockdown properly for say, 3 weeks then relax things.

Agreed.

This has the stats on who is in intensive care. As the person you dissmissed as scaremongering has just summarised this article perhaps you need to do some research before you start criticising others.

No they didn't refer to any articles or indeed any other information source. They plopped and ran.

Read Chardonnay’s earlier post. She very much did challenge the idea that younger people in ICU and not being enough ventilators was fact.

No, what I challenged was the lack of evidence to back up that claim. This is why you will notice that I asked for it in my post.

Presenting something with facts to back it up - OK.
Breathlessly shouting about it - not OK.

The article liked to by another poster does address this, but I also mentions another risk factor, and has no data for the different age brackets.

This wishy washy half arsed in between method is utter crap. Either do a full lockdown or open everything up. What we are doing now is spreading the virus whilst simultaneously destroying the economy at the same time. We need to pick one to save and stick to it- lockdown properly for say, 3 weeks then relax things.

Also agree with this

Just don't read the threads if you want to bury your head in the sand. You can hide the whole board if you want to avoid the news.

This is why leadership and communication are so important. Here in Germany they have gradually shut things down over the past 10 days, bars and nightclubs and schools, then non-essential shops and parks, then restaurants. Each time it was explained that more closures were necessary because people were not behaving adequately. Then Friday Merkel gave us all a stern lecture and said: follow the rules this weekend or it's total lockdown. By all accounts people are now following the rules! So we'll see.

I don't think the message has been clear enough in the UK. Like others have said, it's all sort of wishy washy.

Just don't read the threads if you want to bury your head in the sand.

I think once you’re following official advice then burying your head in the sand is the best way forward to be honest. Everything else is out of your control. Posting about it all, with increasingly scary ‘FACTS’, is a panic response because people feel out of control and it feels like they might be contributing to some undefinable movement to help. Reading the stuff and getting more scared isn’t helping anyone who is already doing what they can.

Actually once you’ve got the essentials and acted on them, then trying to get on with everything else as best you can and think about other things is the way forward for mental health. Shouting scary things at other people on the internet isn’t good for anyone.

You can hide the whole board if you want to avoid the news. Or you can hide the threads and actually watch the actual news or read the online newspapers to get the actual news, instead of reading scaremongering crap on here and facebook.

I've never hated mumsnet more than right now. I'm usually a very strong person and rarely cry but right now everything is so stressful and worrying....you then get idiots posting on here with stuff like that. False news goes more viral than the actual virus!