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To think there is something seriously wrong with Donald Trump?

125 replies

AlternativePerspective · 14/03/2020 07:36

I heard him speak twice this week, and both times I thought that he sounded almost confused and not coherent. Not in the usual way he sounds clueless, but actually from a “I think there’s something seriously wrong with his health” point of view.

The thing is that usually he spouts such drivel that everyone takes the piss out of him anyway, but this seemed different. Almost as if he wasn’t aware of his surroundings and was struggling to find the words.

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PigletJohn · 15/03/2020 20:18

imagine your elderly neighbour leaning over the fence, and saying...

Booboostwo · 15/03/2020 20:19

He will let an astonishing number of people die during this pandemic in the US and I would like to hope that the electoral tide will turn firmly against him.

aroundtheworldyet · 15/03/2020 20:23

I would refer them to social services if they went on like in that Video

Squigglesworth · 15/03/2020 20:28

Sorry, YABU.

I shouldn't be surprised, though, since half of MN seems to think that anyone over the age of 60 probably has dementia. Grin

Mockerswithnoknockers · 15/03/2020 20:33

I also think it started out as "Big League." He also cannot say "origins" an keeps saying "oranges."

The worry is that his base is firm. If he loses the popular vote by over six million and still scrapes the electoral college, then the fun starts.

mumwon · 15/03/2020 20:46

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/15/trump-offers-large-sums-for-exclusive-access-to-coronavirus-vaccine
so he wants to control drugs others developed & use & sell it only for US but perhaps hold others over a barrel
I leave to others to express more fluently than I would what kind of creature he is
please feel free to do so

ivykaty44 · 15/03/2020 21:07

I leave to others to express more fluently than I would what kind of creature he is

Evil

Toothsil · 15/03/2020 21:25

We're just watching him just now and we have absolutely no idea what he's going on about!! We were saying it's like when you're in a job interview and they ask a question that you have absolutely no clue about and you just waffle for the sake of trying to say something as an answer!

longwayoff · 15/03/2020 22:35

Who remembers Russian President Boris Yeltsin? How the West gaped in astonished horror at the bumbling drunken fool. Couldn't happen to us. Trump can't even use the excuse of being permanently vodkaed. He wasn't great to start with and the deterioration is increasingly obvious. Checks and balances will save the USA? Working well. America spent many years looking back at Macarthyism and being ashamed of it. This is considerably worse but nowhere near as bad as it can get. Wake up, USA.

Lordfrontpaw · 15/03/2020 22:47

More like Brezhnev - rumoured to have suffered ‘clinical death’ by a stroke in 1976, revived and then ‘ruled’ in a daze another six years (so a Soviet historian claimed).

TomPinch · 15/03/2020 23:09

An evil creature has some notion of morality, which is more than can be said for Trump.

Emmelina · 15/03/2020 23:15

He slurs, he stumbles over his words, words get scrambled right there on his tongue. If you watch his mouth during an especially scrambly speech his tongue does this flicky thing.
There’s a widely circulating opinion that he is failing to dementia.
Without the orange “tan”, he looks old and sick.

SouthJersey · 15/03/2020 23:33

TomPinch, trust me, there are many Americans that are extremely critical of our president. Many of us can't believe that he is our president and we are appalled that so many of our countrymen actually like this guy! I think he makes people believe that they are part of a club, part of the 'in crowd', that only they know the truth of things. Meanwhile, the rest of us have no doubt that we're the only ones with our heads on straight and are embarrassed by Trump and his cult. It's cognitive dissonance - they claim to believe x, y, and z but then somehow completely ignore that they support a man who is the exact opposite of x, y, and z! How they are able to ignore/explain away his rambling, bizarre speeches is beyond me. And I agree that he's only getting worse.

TomPinch · 16/03/2020 00:28

SouthJersey,

Why do they support him?

I could understand why so many Italians supported Berlusconi. He was charming - and he owned the media network.

I can understand why so many South Africans looked on while Zuma robbed the country blind: he was the Big Man and he'd been imprisoned on Robben Island.

But Trump? He lies, he has business failures, he's charmless, he's a sexual predator, he's clueless on the world stage, and yet potentially a majority of US voters still love him.

I know some say similar of Johnson, but I don't think he compares.

Worriedmom2020 · 16/03/2020 02:00

I honestly just think he is nervous AF and might be feeling very out of his depth. This outbreak is going to define his Presidency now, after all he has gone through during it and now this!
He probably can't wait to get out of the Whitehouse in all honesty.

NeckPainChairSearch · 16/03/2020 02:04

Trump lacks basic compassion for other human beings, and - it seems - a normal range of emotions.

He likes people who like him. He thinks that anyone who doesn't like him or doesn't serve his purpose is more or less sub-human and fair game.

Terrifying, in other words. I hope to God he doesn't win a second term.

HenHarrier · 16/03/2020 05:51

Trump has all the signs of paraphasia - his inability to say words, missing words out, contracting two words together but keeping the right number of syllables, increasingly simplistic vocabulary. It’s not at the level of age related cognitive decline, it’s way beyond that.

What’s even better is the White House publishes his comments verbatim.

www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing-2/

BelfastNonBlonde · 16/03/2020 06:49

@HenHarrier

Jesus H...

Lordfrontpaw · 16/03/2020 06:53

My sister has dementia and she makes more sense even when she is having a bad day.

Lordfrontpaw · 16/03/2020 07:00

He seriously tried to buy the company developing the Coronavirus vaccine? Was he trying to make a buck??

ivykaty44 · 16/03/2020 07:21

Lordfrontpaw Yes, trump is trying to buy the vaccine and make it exclusive

Where we should all be working together to get a vaccine and use. If just one country has the vaccine it will actually isolate itself.

Indeed the idea of making vast money from this by selling at a high price is beyond the pale

Roussette · 16/03/2020 07:29

He probably was trying to licence it under the Trump name to

  1. make money
  2. keep it in the US or if he did sell it on, at a huge premium
  3. be responsible for curing the world

The trouble is he is addled with insecurities and disorders. US lost about 6 weeks or more because no one dared tell him how bad CV was getting and when he did hear, he wanted the numbers supressed. He is so deluded he honestly thought he would get away with one or two cases, and said that in a speech. He has no empathy, cares nothing for human beings... only cares about $$$

I blame those supporting him at whatever cost. The GOP. And his family. The likes of Nunes, McConnell, Jordan and his kids. Those close to him know how demented and deranged he is. They know he can't assimilate information, briefings, make decisions. They don't care about the country and they are enabling him.

Lordfrontpaw · 16/03/2020 07:31

I believe the company making the vaccine told him to piss off (they may have been more diplomatic).

This is how his brain works ‘what’s in it for ME?’. What a creep.

SaskiaRembrandt · 16/03/2020 07:33

imagine your elderly neighbour leaning over the fence, and saying...

That's the thing with Trump. If he hadn't been born with so much privilege, he would just be that weird neighbour known for spouting incomprehensible theories and stealing footballs. Bigly.

TomPinch · 16/03/2020 08:03

He's like a hen, instinctively pecking at a worm or some other insect, and squawking if anything tries to take it. Utterly predictable, which is why he's been utterly played by every other world leader.

Actually he's more of a cock.

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