So what class are you in?

[alwaysmoody]

I see a lot of comments about social class "la di daaa"

So I'm curious to which class you would all place yourselves?

Honestly?

I'm from a LC background but I'm wealthy now from my own hard work and live in a MN area from what I've gathered (Chiswick) but I definitely don't fit in with these "mums" I still prefer having my friends from council estates in hounslow over

So what social classes are you from? And please be naice

I was in p2 and p5 classes today. No p3 because they had an external exam

la di daaa

@araiwa

Watching with interest

I’m foreign so don’t fit in the Brit class system, but find it fascinating to observe.

I’m in the couldn’t give a fuck and think it’s demeaning to judge people on their social standing class.

We’re doing this again? If you’re working class then you’re working class, money has nothing to do with it.

Hmm @alwaysmoody I think a fair few people on here work hard and yet don't live in Chiswick. Respect to you for creating your wealth, that's not a dig, it's just interesting how some people frame things. Great to hear however that you still allow council people across the threshold of your property

Is this some kind of wind-up or is this a serious post? Just curious.

What are the options? Upper, working, lower, chav? Can we have a description for each option. I'm sure Im upper but the kids tell me we are chavs

Also "wealth" - really? I don't think anyone who still relies on income and mortgage payments really talks about "wealth".

Come and spend some time with some of our clients and see their life choices, then you'll know about wealth. They're not spending time telling people they escaped the slums of Hounslow for leafy Chiswick.

Why is it always the folk that make a small step out of somewhere ordinary, that are the busiest at telling us how comfortable they are? Just enjoy your life, you worked hard for it, good luck to you.

@GinDaddy no this is a genuine post. Sometimes it's hard to phrase things with a playful intent. I'm just wondering who here is actually upper class et c. Before I came on MN (about a year now) I never really thought of it at all but now I'm interested.

Second Class ...or cattle class as I call it ... on a very delayed train

I'm the lowest of the low. Scummy benefit scrounging single parent here!

@GinDaddy and yes I agree. What I did, is very LC of me to mention but as I consider this a anon website I don't mind because I wouldn't mention this IRL because it's unnecessary. I'm just curious to find out who considers themselves UC etc? No harm really

LC? Are you meaning "lower class" by that?
There isn't a lower class...

The class system now is way different to what it used to be. For example working class used to be the bottom class, but now there is a class below working class ..because they arent working. Im talking about troublesome families on sink estates where generations have been on the dole. There is also massive movement between classes, so people may have been brought up in lower classes, but now progressed through to higher classes because of their job. Education is key to all of this. In the olden days, if you were born into a working class family , you stayed working class generally. Now, that's not really the case.

@JaneDacre exactly I didn't know that..that's why I've started a thread because I'm curious to know about it all!

I'm poor as a church mouse but privately educated and have a bleck ket. I sew my own clothes and drive a 22yo car. I hate designer labels and gold, I like Miles Van Der Rohe and the Bauhaus movement. I have a mouth like a sailor and enjoy karaoke.

Make of that what you will.

I grew up working class. Live a middle class life now.

Pretending that class doesn't exist or doesn't matter is not a good thing. Does those at the bottom no favours whatsoever

@alwaysmoody OK, fair enough.

I think the people on here who are "upper class" may not be so minded as to say. Perhaps they will, and I'm happy to be proved wrong.

I would say however there tend to be some preconditions for being upper class, and they involve history, and lots of it.

Historical wealth of the real, bequeathed and tangible kind (land, paintings, jewellery, a company, etc). Historical family ties that make for real and lasting connections.

I think there are people who work in the sector I'm in, who like to think they are upper-class because of their perceived spending power. Money is important to the continued existence of the upper class, but it isn't the only signifier by a long chalk.

If I owned a house in Chiswick I’d be pretty pleased with my lot

Anyway, the old class demarcations don’t make much sense now. The traditional working class doesn’t really exist anymore. Many middle class jobs have been devalued in terms of wealth and status.

Property owning versus not is a much clearer division in today’s society than all the guff that will be spouted here about class.

Started in poverty .. now living the middle class life. User to be friends with an aristocrat - he was great fun

WhoEatsPopTarts

We’re doing this again? If you’re working class then you’re working class, money has nothing to do with it.

Have you never heard of social mobility? I work hard to give my kids opportunities that I didn't have (coming from a very poor family living in a run down house with no heating). They have been brought up with every comfort I can afford to give them on a middle-class income, and I'd say they are middle-class rather than the lower class I grew up as. I consider myself middle-class because I now have a good education and well paid job. My parents were definitely not middle class.

*WhoEatsPopTarts

We’re doing this again? If you’re working class then you’re working class, money has nothing to do with it.*

where does that end though? I was brought up in a very working class family, lived on a council estate, dad a labourer, mum worked nights in tesco.

I now live a very privileged life. I have a masters degree, a chartered professional qualification that sees me in the top 30% of earners. Our household income is well above £100k. We own a £400k house with a small mortgage and holiday multiple times a year. Does this still make me working class (i wouldn't be offended, I'm proud of my routes and the work ethic instilled by my parents)..but as I'm working class does that make my DD working class too- despite her obvious privilege? Does social movement not exist?

I consider myself middle-class because I now have a good education and well paid job
You have a job. You work. You are working class. You might perceive yourself as different from those who earn less, but you are still have to work.
It is those who don't need to work who are in a different class.

Oh god, this class system nonsense again. It's not even a British thing, I've only ever seen English people actually care to label themselves by class distinction. The worst ones are those who label themselves 'middle class' like it's a mindset or personality trait. Most of them wouldn't be actually classed as MC when evaluating their economic or sociological situation. Delusions of grandeur.

Most people, from working class to 'proper' middle class and beyond dont need to actually label themselves as such. They know their lifestyles but it generally only matters for data purposes, not social bragging rights.