To think this is peak entitlement?

[lalafafa]

Dear parents that are worried to take your kids on a flight: (As someone who just took 4 toddlers on a flight from Vietnam to Boston, here’s our advice)

Don’t worry about anyone else except for the well-being of your children and yourself.

Don’t worry if your kid doesn’t want to sit still.
Don’t worry if your kid cries.
Don’t worry if your kids makes noises when they are excited.
Don’t worry if your kid runs up and down the aisles.
Don’t worry if your kid happens to
kick the seat in front of you.
Don’t worry if your kid leaves a few crumbs on the ground.
Don’t worry if your kid turns the reading light on and off…
Don’t
Worry
What
Others
May
Think
Of
You
As
A
Parent.
Worry about your kids well-being;
Worry whether your kid is happy;
Worry whether their diaper is clean;
Worry about the logistics of wherever you’re going;
Worry about things that are IN your control!

No doubt — every passenger deserves a comfortable in-flight experience and you should do everything in your power to help this.
BUT
Kids are not robots and we can’t control their every move — no matter how much we prepare.
They are kids.
They will be kids.
They will act like kids.
Be respectful but don’t waste your time worrying what others think. This silly idea that we must apologize for traveling with children is slowly becoming the norm and it’s ridiculous.

Again, this doesn’t mean letting your kids be maniacs. It doesn’t mean being disrespectful and making a mess and not cleaning it up. Or, letting your kids scream the entire flight and not trying to make them happy (though sometimes this is unavoidable). It means to do your best and shake the rest off.

And to those that are flying without children: Tolerance and a
positive attitude will go a long way.

By the way — our kids were not well behaved on the 13 hour leg. They did not sleep. They cried often. They made crumbs. It was hell for us because we were exhausted. We probably took over 10,000 steps up and down the aisles. But, now it’s over and in the past and we already forgot about the other passengers on the flight :)

The way I read it is more that you shouldn't worry (cause worrying doesn't help anything) but that doesn't mean you shouldn't take action when your kids are being a nuisance. Also you should plan to keep them entertained etc - but worrying about it at the time or in advance wont help?

We'll be taking our baby (who will be 15 months) on a long haul later this year. We will plan for as many things as we can and do our best to keep him quiet and entertained. We'll clear up after him, he wont be allowed to roam or kick people's seats etc... but he is a little human and we cant fully control him 100% of the time. For example there could well be a scenario where we stop him from doing something and he cries as a result? Of course we'll aim to calm him down as quickly as possible but likewise I'll not worry about it cause that's not going to help fix it.

Are people really that incapable of reading the thread title, and the op, and getting what the OP meant? Jesus Christ.

Just seen op that not you.....

Flying with children sucks whether it's your own or other people. At first I thought she was being ridiculous, but when I got to the second half I think she's just trying to say not to let your anxiety get the better of you as a parent. It's true you can only do your best. I remember one time in particular flying with 2 year old DS, and he kept stretching out his legs and kick the seat in front of him. Everyone knows how annoying that is. After the billionth time of telling him not to do it I was physically holding his legs down and kind of losing it. Every time he so much as bumped the chair in front of him the lady in it would turn and give us a nasty look, despite my obvious efforts to stop it, and after a while I just wanted to punch her in the face. I know how annoying it is but I was doing my best, my child wasn't old enough to understand, and a tiny bit of compassion would have, indeed, gone a long way.

Odd to write the OP as if you were the person who originally shared the quote.

Now the thread will just be people having a go at 'you'.

FWIW she sounds like an absolute dick. I was in a restaurant this week and a mum wasn't just being gentle with a kid banging her fork on a plate like a drum, she started singing a song in time with said banging and telling her how musical she was. So, so, so selfish.

If a parent lets their kids kick my chair, that parent will hear about it. I can get on board with kids being kids, but parents MUST be parents.

This woman sounds like a nightmare and not someone I’d ever want to engage with. YANBU OP to think she sounds entitled !! There should be child free flights for sure.

Yanbu, this is indeed peak entitlement.

Yeah as someone who had major back surgery I really don’t want my chair kicked ..... women is nuts.

we already forgot about the other passengers on the flight

Bet they haven’t forgotten about you and your kids, though. If a child kicks my seat repeatedly and the parents let it, sharp words would be had.

If you ignore whats she's actually saying... I agree with the premise. I sometimes find myself more worried about my children not being annoying to other people than worrying about them being happy. Id day if I spent my energy trying to engage them or keep them content the result would be they're less annoying for everyone. Instead the first time they kick the seat or hit the buttons or go for the belt or window shutter I pounce all over them and midday through the ensuing battle I realise I'd have been better off ignoring the first time and getting out a book or something to distract them

I'd pay more for long haul child free flights.....

I will always extend consideration to stressed parents who are trying their best but if certain selfish individuals want to rip up the social contract, that's fine.

Because I can think of a million legal, but anti-social and upsetting things to do in return. Starting with teaching said child a few choice swear words and encouraging DP to parp his rancid farts between the seat gaps. We can escalate from there.

@TheNestedIf

I just read some of her other captions, they are all twee, self entitled justifications. I would hate to be their neighbours.

I have never known a flight diverted etc because of a boisterous child. What is very common now is people drinking far to much and causing serious harm and danger to other passengers. I agree that wherever possible we should do our best to get our children to behave as best we can but honestly I'm always more worried about what adult passenger is going to drink to much and sit swearing or worse kick off. I had a woman at the end of a flight say to my daughter how well behaved she was and I told her straight well it's a shame you drank so much and swore throughout

"Don't worry if the woman in front smacks your face in"

79% entitled parents on this thread Bet ya never knew.

Why would anyone in their right minds be taking FOUR toddlers on a flight anywhere, let alone from Vietnam to Boston (and presumably vice-versa)??

Nobody, I repeat, nobody kicks the back of my chair and gets away with it.

You might have forgotten the other passengers but my god, they’ll remember you.

79% entitled parents on this thread grin Bet ya never knew.

I feel like it might be interpretation more than anything else?

A lot of people are interpreting the OP as 'Don't worry about a child's behaviour and don't do anything about it'

But there's also the other interpretation of 'Do what you can to stop your child being a nuisance but don't get anxious/worried about it cause that's not going to help'

I read it as the latter so voted YABU. If I'd interpreted it as the previous then I'd have gone for YANBU.

Oh OP - why didn't you post it in quotes and explain where it came from in your OP?? If you'd done that you'd have got a different response.

The instagrammer can go fuck herself and her entitled attitude, quite frankly. I travel with my 2 kids from Australia to the UK every year - I wouldn't let them do those things! Granted, it's only 2, not 4, but still! They have to learn to behave appropriately.

4 toddlers is unusual.

I think people will get the voting wrong. I thought the shite was from you OP and not a quote from twatty insta mum.

I saw this on Instagram and thought what a fucking knob.
If my child would not be running up and down and aisle because fuck it they're only kids once right!
If your child is repeatedly kicking my chair I'd open up the fire escape and kick the parent out mid air have a word