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Is the amount of rain we've had bothering anyone else?

163 replies

pawsies · 25/02/2020 23:32

Thankfully not in a flooded area but we are still getting a ridiculous amount of rainfall.
Our local river is overflowing and has flooded the adjacent banks.
I mean how long will it take to dry the ground out? Is this because of global warming/climate change?
How are the insurance companies even going to be able to make a start on repairs when we're still getting so much rain?

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TheSandman · 26/02/2020 11:30

Every dog walk round here is like the Somme. Absolutely sick of it

That's a bit over dramatic isn't it ?!

No, it’s quite literally true. The mud is ankle deep, sticky and glutinous. You get your foot stuck if you’re not careful.

And there are dead soldiers lying around and with their bloated corpses sticking up out of the mud and the German artillery* dropping high explosives on you 24/7?

'Literally' my arse!

*Or the Allied artillery - depending on which side you are.

mrsBtheparker · 26/02/2020 11:40

In Norfolk we haven't had the worry of any serious flooding but what I really dislike during rainy periods is hpw much colder than the thermostat it feels! We lived abroad for a time and we regularly had -10C temperatures but because it was dry it felt wonderful, coat, hat and gloves made it a pleasure to go out. Here it's been 7 ot 8C but feels much colder.

Alsohuman · 26/02/2020 11:44

Oh ffs! All right, for the pedantic, the mud on the dog walks round here is like the Somme. OK now?

MaxNormal · 26/02/2020 11:52

mrsBtheparker where I grew up we have short winters that get very cold overnight, well into the minuses, frosty mornings and warm sunny days. It gets very very dry. Downside is that your lips crack and bleed but the upside is that the cold doesn't feel that bad at all.
By contrast I suffer like hell in the UK, it feels really damp which seems to get right into me.

ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 26/02/2020 12:01

Oh fuck, I didn’t think of Alabama rot, but of course that will spread in wet muddy conditions.

Joyful times...

PoppyFleur · 26/02/2020 12:17

@The Sandman "I live in the west Coast of Scotland. This is normal weather for us. Nothing TOO extraordinary about this weather from where I'm looking at it. It's just arriving down south a bit more often - where you're just not used to it as we are."

Many farmers around the UK, and on this thread, have commented on how the wet weather is impacting live stock and food crops. Are they also non hardy Southerners who are just not used to the weather?

SoupDragon · 26/02/2020 12:22

It's just arriving down south a bit more often

So. Unusual then.

oldwhyno · 26/02/2020 12:27

I love winter. But this has been a largely rubbish one. I'll be happy to see the end of the rain for a while.

ACautionaryTale · 26/02/2020 12:32

SW and I think it has rained every day for the last three months.

We've been trying to get a roof put over our hot tub and have been trying since December. There haven't been three dry days in a row!

Worraloadabollox · 26/02/2020 12:38

GinDaddy

This is an island. If you don't like it, emigrate

Island just means the land is surrounded by water, not be drenched in it. Tsk! Reception class geography.

(this is mumsnet. You don't have to mansplain. Mums have logical thinking brains too, if you don't like it... )

BiarritzCrackers · 26/02/2020 12:47

I live in a town within one of those clusters of red dots upthread - while I am so, so grateful not to have been flooded ourselves, the big towns and cities which encircle us have all flooded. It would be manageable if it were just a couple of weekends, but it's consistently difficult to go anywhere or do anything, because roads and car parks flood quickly; you also feel selfish using the roads that service a flooded town if it's not completely essential travel, as the pressure on the open roads is immense, with long queues.

It is quite mad when we do drive out - the fields are just water, everywhere.

BiarritzCrackers · 26/02/2020 12:50

Also feels a bit disappointing not to have had many of those frosty, chilly, but beautiful winter days this year - I think I've broken the ice on the bird bath only twice.

LuckyLickitung · 26/02/2020 12:51

It's been grim since August when it was either stupidly hot or stupidly wet. The back to school photos of the kids look like some moody Indie album cover of them hunched in their winter coats against the pouring rain and cold, and the weather stayed exactly the same, day in day out until we got the first round of floods in early November which did not bode well, yet still nearly 4 months on, the river has been on near constant flood alert, and the parks and fields are total quagmires.

The days are lengthening and easing out now but my SAD hit really early through October and November, and it was dark for school pick up by 2:30 weeks and weeks before the shortest day because the cloud cover was so heavy.

I'm normally pretty good at pushing myself out to go for walks, but we're at the stage of so much run-off for months that the paths through the park have gullies cutting deep into the foundation hardcore on the slope, the flat path is impassable with mud, and the pavements on the school run are thick with grit, mud, and streams running downhill from the woods near constantly. I haven't even dared to attempt my cross-country running routes which are probably knee deep.

I last mowed the lawn in early October when the sun came out for a few hours and even then, I pulverised the edges to mud when I turned. It's kept growing through the winter, but there's not a hope of squelching the lawn mower through it. The DCs have been out to play in the garden once in 5 months and the parks are the same.

It's been fucking awful weather for 6 months now.

In the last decade we seem to be getting a lot of phases like this where the weather seems to get stuck on the same cycle for weeks or months, and less variation through each season.

LuckyLickitung · 26/02/2020 12:54

Oh and we realised our roof was leaking back in August and there just hasn't been the chance to be able to safely strip it back and re-lay it (as it all needs doing from the start due to some fundamental errors during construction) There was over 2 inches of water caught in the drip pots from storm Dennis in 36 hours.

TheSandman · 26/02/2020 12:55

Many farmers around the UK, and on this thread, have commented on how the wet weather is impacting live stock and food crops. Are they also non hardy Southerners who are just not used to the weather?

Is it unusual weather?
Not for us in my part of Scotland. It is for them further south.
We're used to it. They are not.

What's your point?

TheHagOnTheHill · 26/02/2020 12:56

I'm in Worcestershire,the water surface water has mostly reduced and the slightest bit of rain causes problems but this has been the case since November.
Our issue now is the volume of water coming into the rivers.Have to keep Twitter to see where I can and can't travel safely.
Others a few hundred meters away are still clearing out as they were inundated,down the Severn in Worcester the bridges are closing again,inBewdly the flood barriers have been topped by the river level and it's still coming up.
We have clear skies and temps down to to zero.
One the accessable roads the pot holes are crater like and the highways people have been heroic relaying temporary road surfaces where it had all gone.
the pictures are from the 16th,I didn't get to work.Worcester ,Shropshire and Bewdly you can see on the news.
Other people out there are also having a bad time.
When the floods have gone get out and use the shops in these places and help the communities rebuild.

Is the amount of rain we've had bothering anyone else?
Is the amount of rain we've had bothering anyone else?
TheSandman · 26/02/2020 14:10

Many farmers around the UK, and on this thread, have commented on how the wet weather is impacting live stock and food crops. Are they also non hardy Southerners who are just not used to the weather?

BTW are these the same farmers who have ripped out 50% of the hedges in England and Wales since WW2? Hedges which slowed the run off from hills and helped reduce flooding. The same farmers who sold off bottom land to developers to build houses on?

I have sympathy for current individual farmers dealing with the sins of their fathers (sic - more than probably were fathers rather than mothers) but bad, long term countryside management is a cause of a lot of the difficulties people are suffering right now.

frillyfarmer · 26/02/2020 14:20

@TheSandman I think the post being made was that although it is largely accepted that the rainfall average in Scotland is much higher, this is not a usual rainfall pattern for most of the UK.

We are farmers, we farm in Lincolnshire which is one of the most productive counties in terms of arable and veg crop - the land is underwater and has been intermittently since November. Winter crops have not been drilled, it is unlikely that a lot of spring crops will be drilled because the land is too wet to get on - it will affect farmers crop rotation for the next five years. Yes we have had seasonal flooding before but this is a prolonged weather event now - there are videos of livestock farmers in North Yorkshire swimming to rescue sheep, I can assure you this is not normal.

It's quite sad that your attitude is one of "I'm alright, Jack" when it comes to something as serious as flooding. I can't tell you how soul destroying it is to see your land and property flooded to this degree, to battle with the weather every day to ensure livestock is cared for, regardless. Thousands of homes have been flooded by this recent weather and with more rain forecast, probably even more flooding to come.

This will have a knock on effect on supermarket supply and more widely agricultural commodity prices in the next 12-24 months as the grain shortage becomes apparent, so whilst it is apparently "normal" for your part of the country, I am assuming you still need three square meals a day and it would be arrogant to to think that this prolonged bad weather will not have any affect on you.

As for whether it's climate change, I suspect that is a factor. One factor in this region is the lack of routine dredging of artificial EA rivers which has caused flooding due to reduced river capacity. Another big factor is the building on natural floodplains and low lying land, although in this county that has historically been an issue and will continue to be so until planning is scrutinised more closely in connection with water management.

TheHagOnTheHill · 26/02/2020 14:31

If you were lookin for the hedges in my pics they are there but underwater,the tree lined line is the main road.
Climate change means more water can be held in the atmosphere so more heavier rain in future.2007 was the last bad year and this has been much worse as over a larger area and higher river levels.

Bellesavage · 26/02/2020 14:33

Is it more rain? Or lack of funding into River and flood management? I know the field where I walk my dog wasn't cleared this year - they usually dredge the winterbournes and dig a trench for run off water but that didn't happen and now it's like a lake.

Wonkybanana · 26/02/2020 14:51

Lancashire here and it’s pissing down yet again. I’m building an ark in my back garden

Me too. Except we live on top of a very high hill - if we actually ever need an ark, the whole country's in trouble. And even here, there's standing water in the garden, the ground is saturated and it can't run away as fast as it lands.

But yes, sick of rain (and wind). And hail today, just for a change.

colouringinpro · 26/02/2020 14:58

This is the beginning of the effects of climate change. Wetter, stormier winters were predicted a while ago. For much of the UK that's what we're now seeing. This is our new winter. And as global attempts at reducing CO2 are pathetic, this situation will worsen.

colouringinpro · 26/02/2020 15:00

"On average, warming is expected to result in dry areas becoming drier and wet areas becoming wetter, especially in mid- and high-latitude areas"

www.carbonbrief.org/explainer-what-climate-models-tell-us-about-future-rainfall

colouringinpro · 26/02/2020 15:01

Climate change means more flooding

www.gov.uk/government/news/climate-change-means-more-frequent-flooding-warns-environment-agency

colouringinpro · 26/02/2020 15:03

Hokolo has it nailed:

*It wasn't like this a hundred years ago. You can look it up: www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/climate/maps-and-data/uk-and-regional-series

Single years vary too much of course but if you take an average over 10 years 100 years ago and 10 years now, you'll see the average has increased.*

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