Millie Radfird pregnant?

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Congratulations to her but can imagine her getting some stick now poor girl. Gosh it's going to be a huge family once this generation have all their kids!!

I think it is a real shame that she didn’t stop having babies once the grandchildren arrived. With the number that she has who are now young adults she could easily have a brand new grandchild to cuddle every year for the next 40 years!

She could have been a really good, hands on granny and provided loads of support and help.

It is wrong in the extreme to have 25 kids. It is her choice, why are so many people wanting to judge another woman.

HavenDilemma, that is very sad, I hope you are OK. The most important thing for children is love not material things.

The problem with having 25 kids is that it is impossible to meet the emotional needs of that many children, there are not enough hours in the day to even give them all individual attention. Know how a school teacher takes good care of the children in their class but he/she cannot possibly notice every little thing simply because there are too many children to focus on any one individual? Well imagine living in that. How would they notice if one of the children was in the early stages of coming down with something, was being bullied, was unhappy, wasn't developing as expected, was anxious or upset? On the flipside of that, how do the children get any meaningful time with their parents to talk about their interests, share their news or achievements, mess around and tell silly jokes?

Sue and Noel have both stated that they don't do reading with them and they don't do any activities or clubs. In earlier episodes of their TV show, Noel used to go around removing their bedroom door handles at bedtime so that they would stay in their rooms overnight. The children have said on several occasions that they wish their parents would stop and they don't want any more siblings, they have also stated that they don't like the stress of having to care for younger siblings.

And let's not start on the fact that Noel was an adult of 18 when impregnated a 13 year old child.

Good luck to Millie Radford, I hope she enjoys her baby, but let's not pretend her mum and dad are good parents.

I don't understand why posts stating bare facts - she was 13, he was 18 - are deleted. If someone posted on here about their 13 year old child having unprotected sex with an older man, no one would be defending it or deleting posts that highlighted problems with the age difference.

Unfortunately even if @Aussiegirl123456 is telling the truth, her story is not typical. Generally teenage parents have much much poorer outcomes (as do their children) than those who have children later in life. It’s better to wait and establish yourself and build financial stability and emotional maturity before kids. It makes you a much better parent

@CommunistLegoBloc MN has a weird thing where they seem to overly protect the Radfords. I’m not sure if it’s cuz they are scared they’ll get sued or not.

If the kids stoped providing child care and the parents actually had to look after the kids once they stopped being babies then maybe they would stop having them.
I am absolutely judging them, they are not raising their kids and fulfilling their children’s needs at all. It’s just not possible when you have that many children

Some horrible nasty comments here. Life is a blessing for goodness sake
Not sure that's always the case. For many.

Much worse people can do to their kids than have a big family!
Not sure where this sits on the sliding scale of bad things people can do to their kids but it is absolutely possible that having a big family and the responsibilities that come with that for those in it can be pretty bad

Of course, the "We had our family in our teens and have travelled the world and have amazing jobs and a big house and are still going strong and it's been amaaaaaaazing" come out in force. Might not be the reality for most but whatevs

I think it's pretty tragic when children, especially girls, are brought up thinking that is their worth. That's the bar they aim for because that is all they know. That the ability to pop out babies is all they are good for . Any parent raising children to think that is abusive.

@1forsorrow so you think it is ok to have that many children do you?

They cannot possibly give them all enough time and attention so selfish on that score.

Selfish and stupid with regard to how overpopulated the planet is and the UK definitely is.

What about all the money they have cost? Did you read my post that a birth costs apparently £10,000? So what with that cost and the cost of child benefit, tax credits, education, dental treatment etc they have had a fortune from the UK.

What if we all decided to be that selfish and stupid? The NHS would be on its knees, the education system would never cope. Even if we all had half the number she has had it would be a nightmare.

I don't care if they all work and pay tax, they money they put back into the system is not even a drop in the ocean compared with the massive amount they have taken out

how can you possibly raise 21 children and give them each the care, nurture and time they deserve to grow into happy and well rounded individuals

Well we entrust our children to school for a huge part of their lives in classes of 30 and expect teachers to be able to care for and nurture them and educate them so they are well balanced individuals with qualifications and skills to see them through life so if that’s possible why shouldn’t it be possible for 2 parents to be able to nurture and bring up that many children well ?

Very much doubt any of the children will go on to have large families, the introduction of UC will make that a lot less appealing and feasible than the tax credits system that has kept the Radfords afloat. Most of the Radford children work in the shop or McDonalds, it is unlikely that any of them will be high earners.

You can’t seriously compare a teacher and a set of parents. A teacher has children for a few hours a day and doesn’t raise them or get to know them as well as parents do (or should).

The children are not getting raised well. It takes more than “love”.

I don’t see how anyone can judge though

They seem happy, chances are that they ARE all happy.
I was one of three. Emotionally abused and had a childhood where my needs were not met , I had a friend who was an only child and was also abused yet we knew a family with six children who were all fine happy loved and wanted for nothing especially not emotional support and warmth

You just can’t judge based on family size it’s not a given that bigger families are worse

Teachers are trained. They have a set curriculum and targets to get through. They see children for a few hours a day, and barely any for 1:1 time. They do not meet all of their students' needs and nor are they expected to. It is not remotely comparable.

@Homeschoolideas your experiences, whilst they sound terrible, are anecdotal. Of course there are some large families who meet their children's needs and some small who do not. But there is a tipping point where it becomes impossible to do so, and I don't think anyone could argue the Radfords haven't passed it.

@Homeschoolideas I judge. They do not all seem happy. Have you ever watched their tv programme?

So I will ask you too, do you think the money they have cost is ok?

I don’t see how anyone can judge though

I judge. It's really easy.

Who is Millie Radfird?

They seem happy, chances are that they ARE all happy.

Aimee Radford, then aged just 11yo: "I've got to help out a lot {it is} stressful".

Noel Radford: "The older ones have to help out, we need the extra pairs of eyes".

It is totally irresponsible to have over 20 kids on this day and age.
If everyone did that then this country would be totally buggered.

I think it's reasonable to judge when you can make a pretty strong case that somebody else's choices are questionable. If Sue Radford had some other sort of compulsion/issue that only affected her, fair enough. But the decision that her and her husband have made has resulted in 25 children being brought up in what cannot be anything like ideal circumstances.

To watch your parents move on from the toddler to the next newborn, knowing that's what happened to you. To be on a conveyor belt where you're looked after by older siblings, then you're expected to look after your younger siblings. Where's the chance to be an individual? I should imagine many of the children will have attachment issues, which will then become their template for relationships.

Wow, that’s a surprise. Congrats to her. I had my eldest at 16 (nearly 17). He’s 26 now. When it happened my parents were horrified and everyone said I’d ruined my life and it was over. It wasn’t, I ended up getting a degree and moving from sleepy Wales to London for a job and have done well for myself. My son has followed me into the same line of work and is a great kid. We are super close and go on lots of mum and son holidays, not long back from Iceland. So good luck to Millie, she’s got a lot of support. I actually found DS1 much easier than DS2 who I had at 27. I had a lot of support around me, my parents were much more help than DS2’s dad was, my mum let me have 2 lie’s in a week the first 10mths before I started at college. All my washing, cooking done, I had all the time in the world to devote to DS2. I was super lonely on Mat leave with DS2, whereas with DS1 I had loads of school friends who came to see me at lunch time or I met them after school etc. So it’s not all doom and gloom like I’m sure some people will tell her. It will be nice she will have a brother or sister (s) similar age to her own little one plus lots of cousins.

Having 20 odd kids isn’t for me but I know how it feels being judged by everyone around you. The kids seem happy enough and there’s far more worse things to happen in the world than have multiple siblings. So good luck to them

I think I remember reading somewhere that Sue Radford was 14ish when she had her first baby and the husband was 18?? Might be making that up but I was shocked!

She was 13.