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To think Disney Pixar's new film Onward is going to cause all kinds of problems...

105 replies

CornishPasties · 25/02/2020 09:25

From what I can see the general concept is that 2 brothers get to bring their father back to life for 24 hours to spend one last day together.

Now granted I have not lost a parent but I have taught several children who have gone through this horrid experience. The advice given is always to make it clear that death is final and that the person cannot come back no matter how much the child wishes it.

So surely the plot for this film is at best not well thought out and at worst it could give false hope that seeing their parent again might be a possibility?

Aibu or am I massively over thinking this?

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GabsAlot · 25/02/2020 10:49

I like big i know its insinuated they slept together but shes not supposed to know is she

on another note wasnt coco great

WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 25/02/2020 10:51

I like big i know its insinuated they slept together but shes not supposed to know is she

Exactly, I love Big too and when she stayed over she had no idea he was 12 really Smile

ShesGotBetteDavisEyes · 25/02/2020 10:59

I’m so glad mine aren’t bothered about watching these bloody Pixar films anymore with their “messages”! Dd 8 didn’t even want to see frozen 2 and I was sooo relieved - it’s one thing about kids getting older I really don’t miss (along with ball pools!)

Marriedwithchildren5 · 25/02/2020 11:00

I like big i know its insinuated they slept together but shes not supposed to know is she

Is it? I just thought he said about the top bunk and that was it! It's been a while since I've watched it.

TheFaerieQueene · 25/02/2020 11:02

I can also concur that the Little Mermaid statue is a major disappointment.

Depressedbywork · 25/02/2020 11:04

Isn’t this something where the parent/ guardian of a bereaved child would decide whether or not it was appropriate at whatever stage.

WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 25/02/2020 11:05

Is it? I just thought he said about the top bunk and that was it! It's been a while since I've watched it

Exactly, goes over heads when younger! Did mine, it's only because I've watched it more recently as an adult lol (not for a while though admittedly)
Yes, she stays over and gets the bunk, don't think they do anything then though come to think of it?
I do remember a scene something like where they're kissing and he undoes her blouse and the door shuts, and then cut to next morning and he's swaggering into work all "good morning!" lol so it does insinuate they "did" it (hope I'm remembering it rightly, haven't watched it for a while)

ShesGotBetteDavisEyes · 25/02/2020 11:09

Lovemusic33 - I also love national lampoons but I too was shocked when I rewatched it recently!
The incestuous redneck cousins! Driving around with their dead auntie tied to the top of the car!

I still found it funny but it’s really not a film for kids.

LukeSkywalkingOnTheseHaters · 25/02/2020 11:12

Feels like they're running out of ideas.

The incredible Coco dealt with the idea of death and leaving behind happy memories and a legacy magically. Why they are retreading similar issues I don't know.

Agree the premise of this one could seem problematic, but have to see the full thing before can judge fully.

IntermittentParps · 25/02/2020 11:18

I've only read one review but I agree with the OP, it sounds a bit dubious.

As you say, OP, Snow White, Sleeping Beauty etc were never actually dead. That seems different to me. Also, I think one understands at least on some level that they are fairy tales, not particularly identifiable as or similar to members of a real-world family.

It sounds rather unsavoury. I also felt very uncomfortable about the similar theme in The Orphanage, where the dead kid comes back for his mother to be able to cuddle him, and AI, where (I think; ages since I saw it) the mother figure comes back.

Re: Big, I think the joke is that they DON'T have sex, even though she was expecting to; for him it is literally a sleepover like you'd have with a friend. He gets into one bunk and leaves her in the other, looking a bit non-plussed, as I remember.

DressingGownofDoom · 25/02/2020 11:18

Sounds grim. I prefer more cheerful kids films like Minions or Shrek Blush

CaptainMyCaptain · 25/02/2020 11:18

It's one I think I'll avoid for DD2 in particular who gets very upset at death at the moment (she brought home Greyfriars Bobby as a school reading book recently and was in floods of tears
I used to cry all the time over books with animals in. Loyal animals, animals that dies, anything really. Nobody tru

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CaptainMyCaptain · 25/02/2020 11:22

(sent too soon) nobody tried to stop me reading them, my parents just said I was sensitive. I think it helps build resilience and the acceptance that this happens.

When I showed my reception class the Snowman and the Snow Dog one little boy cried. I just let him know that I understood why he was sad and I felt that way too.

cdtaylornats · 25/02/2020 11:22

Disney films screw kids up - I've been looking for a flying elephant for 50 years.

InOtterNews · 25/02/2020 11:24

Review in the Times at the weekend

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/onward-review-once-again-pixar-makes-you-want-to-curl-up-and-cry-for-mummy-dnb6r8j9q

Maybe watch it before you judge it.

I lost my Dad when I was a kid - I also had a fairly vivid imagination. It affected me deeply and for a long time. Looking at this review I can completely relate to the relationships (strong bond with brother, honest Mum etc). As an 8 year old, I found very hard to grieve.

OhCaptain · 25/02/2020 11:25

Also, I think one understands at least on some level that they are fairy tales, not particularly identifiable as or similar to members of a real-world family.

They’re blue aliens with pet unicorns. I don’t know about your kids but mine know they’re not real...

Devlesko · 25/02/2020 11:28

Massively over thinking.
I'm sure anyone who has lost a parent would know this and/or have had it explained at some time since their loss.

IntermittentParps · 25/02/2020 11:29

OhCaptain, I meant more that Snow White etc are iconic figures and kids are quite likely to already know the stories in some way.
These characters (being elves notwithstanding) AFAICS are presented as being just a pair of brothers ie 'normal' and relatable.

Thanks for the snark, though, I do always enjoy that.

SistersOfPercy · 25/02/2020 11:32

The trailer I've seen they only appear to have managed to resurrect half of him.

I absolutely loved Coco, though watched it not long after my Mum died and I was an utter wreck.

NameChangeNugget · 25/02/2020 11:33

There is counselling available for this @cdtaylornats

I feel your pain Flowers

cunningartificer · 25/02/2020 11:36

It may be worth noting that the writer of the film lost his father as a child; it’s written out of that direct experience and so I suspect has a pretty good idea of its impact.

OhCaptain · 25/02/2020 11:37

Sorry @IntermittentParps I was joking, didn’t mean to come across as snarky!

Gemm83 · 25/02/2020 11:39

I sobbed my heart out at Frozen 2. In a packed cinema. Literally balling my eyes out like a baby. All these kids looking at me wondering as to why. I blame PND.

We managed to get a copy for home and at the exact same point even my 42 year old DH exclaimed "WTF, did that just actually happen?!" and was visibly upset!

5 year old didn't even blink at it!

CaptainMyCaptain · 25/02/2020 11:40

When my dad died I was on practical mode - probate, house clearing etc. Then I went tosee the fim Dunkirk. My Dad wasn't at Dunkirk and didn't fly a spitfire, he was in the Far East, but the the fact that they were all young men of his age and the things they had to do - I have never cried so much at a film. I think my husband was quite embarrassed but my point is that triggers are not necessarily what you expect them to be and maybe I really needed it to release the grief.

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