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To think Disney Pixar's new film Onward is going to cause all kinds of problems...

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CornishPasties · 25/02/2020 09:25

From what I can see the general concept is that 2 brothers get to bring their father back to life for 24 hours to spend one last day together.

Now granted I have not lost a parent but I have taught several children who have gone through this horrid experience. The advice given is always to make it clear that death is final and that the person cannot come back no matter how much the child wishes it.

So surely the plot for this film is at best not well thought out and at worst it could give false hope that seeing their parent again might be a possibility?

Aibu or am I massively over thinking this?

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Bluetrews25 · 25/02/2020 10:18

Probably best not to judge until you have actually seen it.
There was massive objection from religious bodies before Life of Brian was released, but actually it is very funny and does not poke at Christianity too much!
'He's not the messiah, he's just a very naughty boy'
The makers will have thought about the storyline for years, no doubt.

mothertruck3r · 25/02/2020 10:20

I think it's irresponsible that so many childrens films preach that "you can be or do anything, possibilities are infinite" type of thinking as well as "the goodies always win". Real life isn't that moral or simple.

Lovemusic33 · 25/02/2020 10:21

Always loved Big when I was a kid, never thought about the “sleeping with a 12 year old bit”.

I watched the Grizwolds (wally world) with dd the other day as it was a favourite when I was a kid, I was shocked how awful the story line was and some of the scenes, I can’t believe I was allowed to watch it as such a young age.

I don’t think kids always notice the finer details in films. Dd1 is quite sensitive and seems to cry and most films we go to see in the cinema including toy story and nativity, I don’t think we will be going to see this one.

EstebanTheMagnificent · 25/02/2020 10:22

A crazy thought perhaps, but maybe actually see the film before making a judgement?

OhCaptain · 25/02/2020 10:22

Well movies don't have to be "responsible" do they? They're just entertainment. They're not parents.

ProgrammableMagneticStorm · 25/02/2020 10:22

YANBU and they have form for this. In "The Good Dinosaur" who decided what constituted "good", who placed that judgement on the qualities of the dinosaur? Does that imply that there are "bad" dinosaurs and really what is "bad" when we don't know the struggles that the dinosaur has in life, so who are we to judge?

Is this a joke?

WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 25/02/2020 10:23

Bloody hell, credit kids with a little bit of intelligence, please Grin
They know you can't bring relatives back from the dead (and if the they think you can, then that's where parenting and educating them comes in)
What you see on telly isn't always real is a good lesson to learn as a child as well!
MN gets more bonkers by the day, I swear.

TheFaerieQueene · 25/02/2020 10:24

I couldn’t stand Disney as a child, give me the Brother’s Grimm and Hans Christian Anderson in the original text every time. Far more gruesome. 😈

WhentheRabbitsWentWild · 25/02/2020 10:26

I remember crying at Up and my sons looking at me like wtf ? Haha
The same happened with the ending of Toy Story 3.

WhentheRabbitsWentWild · 25/02/2020 10:27

Oh me too @TheFaerieQueene .
For years I wanted to go see Hans Christian Anderssens Little Mermaid in Copenhagen . Apparently though, its quite a disappoint to many and I have since seen the photos on Google.

ProgrammableMagneticStorm · 25/02/2020 10:28

Apparently the Little Mermaid is the most stolen/vandalised statue on earth?

ChuckleBuckles · 25/02/2020 10:29

Programmable yes it is, but obviously not funny or clear to people that I was joking.

OhCaptain · 25/02/2020 10:29

Biggest disappointment, Rabbits! It's a tiny statue by an unremarkable harbour and is surrounded by people all the time.

But Copenhagen is fab!

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 25/02/2020 10:29

Don't let your kids watch Tangled, they might think it's OK to climb some random's hair! Or Brave, turning your mum into a bear isn't very nice.

When my nephew was much younger he was obsessed with the anime series Fullmetal Alchemist, which begins with two brothers trying to resurrect their dead mother and seriously injuring themselves in the process. He's grown up to be a perfectly well adjusted adult who knows that you can't bring relatives back from the dead and that doing so wouldn't be a good idea anyway. Maybe wait and see the whole film rather than panicking based on just the trailer.

(Also whoever mentioned Coco, it's great!)

EstebanTheMagnificent · 25/02/2020 10:32

It’s actually pretty disappointing that as a teacher you give children so little credit for their ability to distinguish fantasy from reality. Onward is set in a world with unicorns running wild, and the two brothers are blue elves. It couldn’t be much clearer that it isn’t set in the real world. Children will understand that, just as they understand that pumpkins don’t really turn into coaches.

Texts which deal with bereavement can be very important for grieving children and young people.

Marriedwithchildren5 · 25/02/2020 10:32

Have you watched coco? Jack frost? Loads of films I'm sure have this context aimed at kids. Overthinking and too precious.

ProgrammableMagneticStorm · 25/02/2020 10:33

@ChuckleBuckles

Phew.

Sorry.

I was actually worried.

sunshineANDsweetpeas · 25/02/2020 10:35

Most Disney/Pixar films have a dark side

Tangled - kidnap and child abuse
Up - death
Cinderella - child abuse
Snow White - child abuse
Sleeping beauty - child abuse
Big hero 6 / lost of parents and death of sibling

This list goes on - I think you are overthinking things a bit

CornishPasties · 25/02/2020 10:38

Ok Ill again agree its been established im being unreasonable, I hope it does deal with it in a sensible way. I just thought it would make an interesting discussion. I didnt expect my ability as a teacher called into question but again ill conceed I am overthinking it. Grin I'm glad I started the thread though I've never been called a snowflakd before. Grin

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Auridon4life · 25/02/2020 10:38

Can't believe anyone actually watched the good dinosaur. I only watched it for research purposes because it was supposed soo bad. It was very weird. Farming dinosaurs?

SudokuQueen · 25/02/2020 10:38

Oh come on. You can't be serious.

It's a film! If you've managed to teach your children about death, which many parents find terrifying to talk about for some reason, then you can also teach them that what they see on TV isn't real. It's not a difficult conversation.

sarahjconnor · 25/02/2020 10:39

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WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 25/02/2020 10:39

Jack frost?

I thought of that film straight away on reading OP.
Now that's one to be more wary of - bringing your Dad back as a talking snowman for the day?
Far more head screwy lol Grin

AriadnesFilament · 25/02/2020 10:41

It sounds similar to Coco, and someone I know whose spouse died watched that with their child and said it was brilliant and extremely sensitively done, and was glad they’d watched it as helped with explaining death and grieving.

So I think perhaps best to reserve judgment until you’ve seen it?

sarahjconnor · 25/02/2020 10:45

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