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AIBU to think that a paedophile's sex is actually relevant when they're convicted?

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Clymene · 23/02/2020 17:43

https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/blackpool-woman-admits-having-more-17788403

In this news report, the offender is referred to as a woman. As is clear when you actually read the article, Julie Marshall is transgender.

According to Sentencing Guidelines however, whether Julie is male or female is irrelevant. It doesn't matter if Julie has a GRC or not, whether Julie is described as male or female is entirely up to Julie, despite the fact that Julie is a vile sick pervert?

"It should be possible to recognise a person's gender identity and their present name for nearly all court and tribunal purposes, regardless of whether they have obtained legal recognition of their gender by way of a Gender Recognition Certificate.
A person’s gender at birth or their transgender history should not be disclosed unless it is necessary and relevant to the particular legal proceedings"

www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/Equal-Treatment-Bench-Book.pdf

AIBU to be fed up of hideous crimes committed by men being wrongly attributed to women?

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 24/02/2020 13:34

I am really angry about this.

DickKerrLadies · 26/02/2020 07:53

I saw the second article over the weekend and as soon as I saw the headline I knew that it was bollocks. 80,000 images. 80,000

I also agree that this is the logical conclusion of 'TWAW because they say so'.

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 26/02/2020 08:00

Yanbu

Cecily75 · 26/02/2020 08:02

YANBU. Biological sex matters.

Springisintheair2 · 26/02/2020 08:07

It's a sex crime, biological sex is extremely relevant. Yanbu

Noconceptofnormal · 26/02/2020 08:22

It's appalling on so many levels.

It's appalling for the victims of his hideous crimes - if heaven forbid this was my children I would want it recorded exactly what they'd suffered - ie if they'd suffered penetration in any way or anything to do with his penis I would want that acknowledged, as it is central to the level of abuse they'd suffered. Recording that it was a woman suggests there was no penis involved (I know these days we have to refer to 'her penis' and so on).

It is also appalling for women in general that we are being tarred with predominantly male crimes.

I read another article recently with headline - woman found guilty of having 10,000 indecent child abuse images on computer.... Of course it wasn't a woman, it was a transwoman, but the media had used 'woman' in headline as it's clickbait.

I'm so so sick of this, this is a shit time to be female. Where can I move to where the country doesn't cow tow to the translobby?

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