To think that most people voted to leave the EU to stop freedom of movement?

[Moomin8]

The proposed new rules the government have supposedly set out that are designed to keep out 'low skilled' workers seem to me like social cleansing. Most recently , when people moan about 'immigrants' they are always talking about people from Eastern Europe in my experience.

What really annoys me is that almost all leaver voters deny repeatedly that their vote had anything to do with the fact they wanted freedom of movement stopped.

Sorry if this has been done to death. But why won't people just be honest?

We don’t want them (ex pats)
They cleared off, so they can bloody well stay away.
Can’t the government find an old oil tanker and shove them all in it - as they pop off we could then bury them at sea...no?

We don’t want them (ex pats)
They cleared off, so they can bloody well stay away.

Right, so foreigners can come to Britain and be quite welcome even though they are expats who 'buggered off' from somewhere else, but British expats wanting to come home are not welcome? What a chippy, unpleasant and completely nonsensical way to think.

They cleared off, so they can bloody well stay away.

Maybe you shouldn't have voted to take their rights away, then?

CherryPavlova

You could just as easily argue the demand for housing ruining our country happened because of the exponential growth in single parent households. Nearly two million single parent households - if we went back to the ‘stable days’ that would be whole lot more available housing. Please note I’m not suggesting this is the answer!

It's ok. My leave voting Mum has the answer to this as well. Single mums can all live in shared houses. Then work shifts so there is always some Mums at home to provide childcare,but all mums are working. According to her this is the perfect solution to the single mums who "claim they can't work due to lack of affordable childcare".
This will also free up housing for whoever needs it, and is presumably more deserving.

Interestingly my mum was a single parent in a job role that doesn't really exist anymore. School hours only. I'm also a single Mum,but apparently she doesnt mean 'my kind' of single mum.

So once all the forriners have gone, and the single Mums are in the workhouse shared housing, there'll be loads of housing for those who need it.

Also you have to work for several years' to pay for your pension to retire in your 60s. Will the newcomers need to be in their 20s to do this?

I throughly we were supposed to be reducing our carbon footprint in the UK?

AAAAARGH! Stop Enough!

@FieldOfFlameAndHeather

I really don’t think Foreigners “are quite welcome” at all. Why do you think the UK voted leave??

As for expats- if they’ve squandered their money abroad and now want to return to live out their final years here at UK tax payers expense...I say sod off!!
Last thing this country needs is 20 boatfuls of overcooked OAP’s whinging about Britain and tellin’ (boring) everyone about how bad Britain is and how good they’ve enjoyed livin’ in the sun.

Stay there.

Maybe the expats returning from EU as they are no longer entitled to remain

They are entitled to remain, why would they be coming back?

the truth is a DBS with a twenty year old shoplifting offence doesn’t actually negate you becoming a care worker depends on the employer. As spent minor convictions show up on an enhanced disclosure, they are taken into account. You can't unsee something you've seen.

And do you really think someone who peed in public when he was 20 and drunk shouldn't be a care worker in his 40s? If you really think that, that proves my point about the DBS system being unfit for purpose.

We can't cope with many more people coming in. We don't have the infrastructure to support it.
The people coming in make the infrastructure to support it. We are stuffed without them.

Can't we try for a few years' to limit immigration and see who is here now.

The people coming in make the infrastructure to support it. We are stuffed without them.

This is such a ridiculous argument. Without the extra people we would not have needed the extra infrastructure.

Some of the comments on this thread are disgusting. Now I realise why the UK is called a racist country. DH and I are ‘foreigners’ in the UK but have contributed significantly (more than many UK citizens I imagine). As a result of Brexit we’ve decided to leave so if you now can’t get a doctors appointment, you have yourself to blame that my DH and many of his colleagues are leaving the UK.

By the way UK Expats who have been living in Europe can come back to the UK whenever they want!

Where will you and your DH go Parker?

We’re going to Quebec

By the way UK Expats who have been living in Europe can come back to the UK whenever they want!

Yes but they don't automatically qualify for assistance or access to the NHS.

So let me get this right Parker as a result of Brexit you are leaving the UK because you can’t bear to stay under the new system, yet you are going to Canada which has exactly the sort of system that we plan to implement here? Okay then.

If you are leaving because you don’t agree wIth the end of freedom of movement don’t you think it’s a little hypocritical to go somewhere where there is no freedom of movement? 🤷‍♀️

DH is French Canadian so we are going to live in his home town. Due to my job I am also entitled to work there.

IImmigration has created the ‘need’ for housing, destroying our countryside. The population was stable before. The more people you import the more you need
Utter and complete piffle
The UK population BOOMED during the Industrial Revolution due to increasing longevity

Much of the world population growth is due to ageing not births ....
Only Africa has a birth rate above replacement

Okay so you aren’t leavIng purely because of Brexit at all then, are you really? I imagine it just makes you feel morally superior to say you are.

We are leaving as a result of the Brexit leave vote - we don’t see any future for us in the UK. We’re lucky enough to have non UK passports so plenty of options.

Why don’t you see a future though Parker? If you have good jobs that you were happy with and Brexit isn’t going to make you redundant, what has changed about your situation and your ability to stay? It’s not like you’d be forced to take Citizenship or leave, is it? You could just maintain things pretty much exactly as they are. I genuinely don’t understand what has changed for you in any tangible sense.

I would think most leavers (of the UK) will be gone by the summer.
Good luck to them.

@FieldOfFlameAndHeather

Maybe they get racist abuse now and that hadn't happened before the referendum. I personally know EU nationals this has happened to.

Sorry! Posted too soon.

I personally know EU nationals this has happened to who have decided to leave as a result. The UK has changed.

Does anyone remember late 80s/early 90s when UK construction sector had died & loads (I mean LOADS) of (un/)skilled labourers went to Germany to work in Deutsche construction industry? I wonder what those workers will do in next economic downturn. Oh, that's right.. they'll all become carers. Sorted.

I know someone who voted Leave (I'm told) because he disliked Polish/E. European shops on the high street in the (economically deprived) town where he grew up. I guess he'd be happier if those properties were boarded up or converted to flats.

Just thinking that in the last 15 years when we had our fascia boards painted, front door painted, plumbing work, boiler serviced, bit of wiring, windows replaced, oil tank filled, cars repaired, woodburner installed, flooring all replaced... always by people who seemed to be English born & bred. One of them was a fervent UKIP supporter.