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To think I will be dismissed for sickness record?

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nojob · 18/02/2020 19:02

I started a new job last October with 3 month probation. I was told in January that my probation was to be extended for 2 months 'due to absence' as I'm not fully trained up yet and haven't been able to demonstrate I can meet the required standard. They said they are confident that I should meet the required standard by the end of February.

I have been off sick for 10 days in total (2 days in November, 2 days in December, 1 day in January all due to very bad periods and 5 days last week due to a heavy cold.). Can they decide not to pass my probation even if my performance is ok? They haven't said anything yet but I get the vibe that they are not very supportive of sickness. I missed some important training when I was off last week. Should I be worried?

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Figgygal · 23/02/2020 07:55

Ah love the Windsor’s

Surfer25 · 23/02/2020 09:06

I've just been thinking about it and in 25 years of working the only time I missed 10 days of work in an entire YEAR was this past holiday season when I had the flu and pneumonia. And just my luck I was scheduled to be off for vacation on 5 of those days so I only called out for 5.

I saw this again fairly early on.

People don't realise that in the UK if you become ill on annual leave, you are allowed to have the annual leave credited back and use it as sick.

But if you will note with this poster: @momtoboys she was glad she was on holiday anyway when she got sick so she didnt have to take so much sick leave

Some people are truly professional and wouldn't dream of taking the mickey.

Unlike op

Itscoldandimwatchingfootball · 23/02/2020 09:25

Like the new employee asking their co-workers " what's imcold like with days off for sickness" within 2 days of starting. 2 different employees came and passed that on to me. They had no interest in working with someone who implied early on that they would be pushing extra work on to them without notice.

Their instincts were right, two days off. Both each side of long weekends away.
Followed with "I didn't realise that you monitor days off". She was unaware that a job is a two way street where the employer has a requirement that needs doing and is happy to pay for someone to so that job properly. Rather than a job is just a means to give money to employees.

woodencoffeetable · 23/02/2020 09:29

she was glad she was on holiday anyway when she got sick so she didnt have to take so much sick leave

holiday is paid. sickness (depending on company policy) only from a certain point onwards and then smp is a pittance. some people cannot afford to take sick leave.

zorroinlondon · 23/02/2020 09:31

That’s right it was an EU directive to call in sick during vacation time and have it credited. Though I know of employers who pretended they didn’t know anything about it or conveyed this to their employees as it was misinformation or that it was not applicable to them because of - they made up some bull excuses such as the business was too small and therefore it was excepted because of the number of employees or it had to be sickness over two weeks in a three week holiday, etc - some of those employers who had their policy in a handbook or a the noticeboard didn’t state it in their policy or publicised it either. All of the friends who told me about it were from hotel and catering or from retail and in the lower end of the business organisation so I think the employers and managers knew what they were doing and were counting on their ignorance.

Bikerider2020 · 23/02/2020 09:32

I didn't realise a couple of days each month was too bad.

24 days a year? Plus at the moment five days for a cold. So that's 29, more than I get in holidays.

Come on it's outrageous!

weasledee · 23/02/2020 09:43

Sorry but the phrase "light flu" is ridiculous. Trust me, there's no such thing as light flu!!!!! There's a cold, which granted isn't nice and then there's flu which, trust me is nothing like a cold!!!!
Rant over :)

zorroinlondon · 23/02/2020 09:45

@Bikerider2020, it is outrageous if she’s faking them or making them sound worse than they are and in life you do need to toughen up a bit, but as stated in previous messages if you are suffering from excruciating pain you can’t be expected to work but you need to communicate with your employer and find a way if possible. By the way I’m not referencing to OP’s case, I’m just stating a general opinion on someone who is genuinely very ill.

Bikerider2020 · 23/02/2020 09:50

@zorroinlondon having a common cold is not excruciating and no reason to have an entire working weekend off.

Period pains, needs sorting because I suspect the OP is about to be sacked. Painkillers, doctors whatever it takes, telling the doctor it's caused her to lose her job! Yes I've experienced the same, leading me to have the mirena coil fitted.

Bikerider2020 · 23/02/2020 09:51

*week not weekend!

zorroinlondon · 23/02/2020 09:58

@Weasledee, when I have a bad cold I’m usually ok after two days and that’s including working. When it is a light cold I can brush it aside as if it is nothing to worry about. When I have a flu it is either a bad one or a light one. Yes you heard me right. A bad one means I’m out for three days but I’m still able to work but I promise you for three days I have aches and everything you can think of but if I do nothing I get so bored I rather be dead, but after those three initial days I bounce back and you wouldn’t know I had a bad flu though I may still be sneezing and coughing. On the other hand if it is a light flu you still wouldn’t know because I would only show I’m sick for half a day before I begin to bounce back with a sneeze and coughing and I’m still working...
My doctor said that I have a very strong body (immune system) and spirit and depending how bad these colds and flu symptoms are my body can fight them. On the other hand my brother’s immunise system is different and any flu means the same to him. It really depends on the individual.
Wait for this... if I see a needle or blood I faint no matter how strong my body is!

zorroinlondon · 23/02/2020 10:04

@Bikerider2020, I stipulated my comment was a general one and not as a response to OP’s. Feel free to scroll and check.

Bikerider2020 · 23/02/2020 10:06

Through 988 posts? No thanks @zorroinlondon !

Bikerider2020 · 23/02/2020 10:07

This 100% what the fuck is "light flu"

74NewStreet · 23/02/2020 10:09

Agreed, yet so many people insist you can have symptomless flu...

Bikerider2020 · 23/02/2020 10:11

Exactly @74NewStreet I've never had flu, but my DH has it once, Bloody hell he was so ill. No way would I label that a cold.

GothamProtector · 23/02/2020 10:14

I can't believe I've followed this whole thread and now it's going to hit 1000 comments with no conclusion.

Tistheseason17 · 23/02/2020 10:15

Cough, sniffles and aches for 3 days is a COLD.
Flu is debilitating for at least a week, not an inconvenience for 3 days..

zorroinlondon · 23/02/2020 10:16

Most of you would have noticed that I don’t use bad language because I don’t like to offend people I don’t know and because I don’t use it lightly. The other resin is because my wife doesn’t use it either and now because my four year old is always asking what it means whenever he hears a new word and if I tell him it’s a bad word he then cheekily repeats it.
A light flu is not bull
If you read medical books or spoke to your GP about it they would explain certain flu’s have different grade and different people depending on their immune system deal with them differently

GothamProtector · 23/02/2020 10:18

I've had diagnosed flu.
I honestly felt awful.
But I could function. I was OKish. Definitely not the at deaths door and giving my final will and testament at my death bed that always paraded out on MN.

It was rough. Was worse than a cold. But I would absolutely class it as light flu.

zorroinlondon · 23/02/2020 10:19

@Bikerider2020, you don’t have to scroll from the beginning only to the previous message where it was stipulated and to which you responded without reading it properly

relax2 · 23/02/2020 10:20

That is a lot of days in 3 months. I have 3 young children and I havnt had 10 days in 5 years (and believe me when I tell you kids get poorly regularly )

user12674246853 · 23/02/2020 10:21

I wouldn't want to work for an employer that thought it was fine to dismiss people for being injured in accidents outwith their control. Being hit by a car is no more a choice than getting cancer. Humans have an impressive lack of humanity sometimes.

Bikerider2020 · 23/02/2020 10:21

In fairness @zorroinlondon anyone that purports to have "light flu" is not someone I can't take seriously. You don't have three days off with flu.

It's fairly obvious that the OP will be dismissed, so she needs to sort it out! End of really.

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