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To think I will be dismissed for sickness record?

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nojob · 18/02/2020 19:02

I started a new job last October with 3 month probation. I was told in January that my probation was to be extended for 2 months 'due to absence' as I'm not fully trained up yet and haven't been able to demonstrate I can meet the required standard. They said they are confident that I should meet the required standard by the end of February.

I have been off sick for 10 days in total (2 days in November, 2 days in December, 1 day in January all due to very bad periods and 5 days last week due to a heavy cold.). Can they decide not to pass my probation even if my performance is ok? They haven't said anything yet but I get the vibe that they are not very supportive of sickness. I missed some important training when I was off last week. Should I be worried?

OP posts:
Cookiecrumble888 · 19/02/2020 14:31

As a heavy period sufferer you have my sympathy. Sadly other people can't always understand the struggle. Mine massively affect my energy. I'm anemic all the time and leak through so many clothes on day day 2-3.

Unfortunately on paper your attendance is poor. 5 days for a heavy cold is not great either. My child's had 6 days of since September. She's in reception and she's down to 93% I think. We got a letter to warn us they like it at 95% or above.

I am not sure what they will decide. Have you been to the drs about your periods? Is there anything you've already tried?

BeaLola · 19/02/2020 14:34

I think there will be more and more like OP in the future - in my sons primary class the absenteeism was horrendous & we're not talking about children with underlying health issues - the number who couldn't come in after a late night , the slightest look of a cold and it was a week off - some of the parents equally couldn't be bothered to take them to school some days so child left at home g thy o play on PlayStation or watch tv - sone of these children will grow up and not behave like their parents but some will .

Where I work we had one guy who took the mickey - apart from days off all the time if he didn't get what annual Leave Today he wanted over Christmas etc he called in sick - none of us had any residency for him and eventually they got rid of him

BeaLola · 19/02/2020 14:35

Meant to say - none of us had any respect for him at all - he seriously annoyed everyone with his attitude and his laziness.

EBearhug · 19/02/2020 14:39

“I’m actually dead but I’m so dedicated to my job I work from the afterlife”

That could explain some colleagues...

PlomBear · 19/02/2020 14:46

“A poor colleague of mine dragged herself into work during a miscarriage OP. You need to get a grip. “

Sorry but going in to work with a miscarriage is nothing to be proud of.

hydeandrun · 19/02/2020 14:53

Sorry but going in to work with a miscarriage is nothing to be proud of.

nobody said they were proud of it. I went to work while miscarrying. there was no sick pay and I could not afford unpaid time off. don't think it is uncommon.

KahlanRahl · 19/02/2020 14:56

I've worked with people who when they'd done so many hours covering for sick colleagues took a day off sick to make up for it.

I can understand whh. I once had a colleague like OP. It was a nightmare. She couldn't work alone but was fine with me having to work two jobs when she was calling in sick with stupid stuff (pregnant and tired, rabbit needed walking around were two that stuck with me).

Dumdumdumdidly · 19/02/2020 15:03

Doctors DO NOT give out precautionary antibiotics, due to the risk of them becoming ineffective in the population (which is already happening). Unless you have CPD or some other chronic low immunity condition that just cannot be true.

Just popping on to say yes they do! My doctor will write me a prescription for antibiotics and tell me to get them if it gets worse!

Dumdumdumdidly · 19/02/2020 15:05

Oh and I never kick up a fuss about antibiotics been given to me and I also rarely actually get the prescription! I think it's an odd thing for a doctor to do!

ilovesooty · 19/02/2020 15:20

@KahlanRahl this was in teaching. Part of the job was to do cover when necessary.

missfliss · 19/02/2020 15:21

@Movinghouseatlast totally agree re Cameron and employment rights. To my mind 12 months is more than adequate for Employers to assess a new team member - no idea why 2 years are needed before any protection against instant dismissal

Mixertaps · 19/02/2020 15:22

without giving a chance to those who don't even bother with the waiting-'til-feet-under-table bit.

Sorry, I still don't get it. You think someone who is genuinely sick should still come in on probation? You think people can fend of illness until their feet are under the table? How strange of you.

"I'm sick"
"God, you couldn't even wait until after your probation, could you!?"

Makes no sense and is very unreasonable.

Mixertaps · 19/02/2020 15:25

We had a recent thread about people who take a day off not because they're ill but because they don't feel up to going to work.

Maybe if we had a better work/life balance, people wouldn't feel so exhausted and emotiobally drained that they need to take time off for self-care. Mental abd emotional health is important. Some employers just love to run their employees into the ground because they sss no problem with prioritising work over most other things

PlomBear · 19/02/2020 15:25

But that doesn’t mean that everybody having a miscarriage should have to go to work because you did.

I get that there is a lack of sick pay for some. Well statutory sick pay in the UK kicks in after 4 days. But nobody in ICU is saying “oh I don’t get sick pay I have to go to work.” Because they are in intensive care. There are limits to physically be able to go into work! Hospital inpatient, giving birth, having surgery, paralysis etc.

loobyloo1234 · 19/02/2020 15:28

You have my sympathy re the period pains. I know many people that suffer severe pain – myself included

But 5 days off for a cold? Hmm I would be worried about probation being signed off as that seems an extreme amount of time off

PlomBear · 19/02/2020 15:29

I’m surprised that people think that the two year limit is some kind of safety net. Your employer can still easily dismiss you at any time with little recourse. You can challenge a dismissal after two years but the employer can find a way round it.

hydeandrun · 19/02/2020 15:36

But that doesn’t mean that everybody having a miscarriage should have to go to work because you did.

gosh, you should read my post. I never suggested that at all. I just said that going to work whilst having a MC is probably a lot more common than people assume Hmm

DressDrama01 · 19/02/2020 15:46

I left a comment on here yesterday about how i'd gone to work with a broke foot. This morning I slept in for nearly four hours and missed a very important meeting that i'd been prepping for for weeks. We've no idea how it happened and we both slept through my four alarms and husband's five, he goes into work an hour later than me.

I think that was karma biting me in the bum for feeling smug writing my post yesterday.

CheshireChat · 19/02/2020 15:58

I have a certain amount of sympathy, but you say you don't want to take long term contraceptives as you're want to start TTC, however this isn't the case for your previous job and you didn't try them then either so I think you also need to change your mindset up to a point.

woodchuck99 · 19/02/2020 16:06

I think that taking days off every month for what will seem to most people like a relatively minor illness will not impress any employer. You need to contact HR about your periods and get a referral to occupational health. They need to see that it is not a minor issue.

Tessabelle74 · 19/02/2020 17:36

I've not had that much time off in 2 years! Your best bet is to talk to your line manager, explain that you're going to see your GP in relation to bad periods and that you will try your best to improve your attendance. The fact they extended your probation rather than getting rid of you, may mean they will look on this kindly but I wouldn't count on it

Scarriff · 19/02/2020 17:37

Agree with other comments that you sound as though you arent sufficiently committed to the job. Missed training because of a cold? Two days off each time for periods? My employer would have you gone, especially because you are on probation.

Abc234 · 19/02/2020 17:47

Think u need to speak to your dr re periods get meds to help you at the time of month .Not looking good on the job front but miby if you are seen to be getting medical treatment to help with your time of month might help . Good luck

ButterscupsRevenge · 19/02/2020 17:48

I for one would like to know more about these Dick days....

McCanne · 19/02/2020 17:48

The lack of understanding and empathy towards women who struggle and suffer with their periods is, as always, utterly depressing.

OP your attendance will definitely have their alarm bells ringing, and they extended your probation to give you the opportunity to address that. The fact that you’ve been off again and missed training is going to go against you for sure.

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