To ask why people flee the UK?

[seasonalsparkler]

I haven't posted in a while and have name changed. In light of recent events such as brexit, royal drama and suicidal behaviour- I can't help but to pick up on a troubling undercurrent. So I guess I am asking for anyone to shed light on why you have fled the UK or why you might consider doing so?

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“ THere are always happenings...live music and markets, concerts and fairs...festivals etc. Mini local ones are common and the teens love them.”

That’s constant in the UK too. Obviously weather and beaches are mostly no good here, even I’ll admit that 😂

MrsFezziweg

I think the thread was genuinely a secret code for particular MNers

Perhaps they’ve made shared bunker arrangements.

High house prices have probably affected many peoples' standard of living in the UK but isn't Sydney or Toronto similar nowadays?
Probably where you live in a country affects your quality of life as much as which country. Won't apply in the UAE.

Global warming means that hot places are becoming unbearably hot. In Australia it's now 50 degrees in the summer. And only getting hotter.

MrsFezziwig Wed 19-Feb-20 00:20:49
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She may have emigrated!

More likely busy at work, we may hear from her later. I hope so, this is an interesting thread.

Surely that says more about you than the UK, though @Ithink? I left the UK in late 2019, after living there for most of my adult life, but that doesn't reflect my experience of the country at all

@Canapes
yes probably. I can’t speak for others, that’s just my experience. Just answering the question

ithink the business about going through the motions applies anywhere though doesn’t it? I mean, unless you are born rich, surely that experience applies wherever you live?

@AutumnRose1 for me, when I found a place I loved, the motions seemed much more enjoyable, if that makes sense! So I guess it was a combination of a lot of things. I never found that place that made me feel that way in the UK, but that’s not to say it doesn’t exist.

Just to clarify I don’t hate the UK, I just hated living there! I can definitely see all the good, especially now I’m looking in from the outside. I do miss the ease/cheapness of travel, the greenery (but not the rain, which I realise is contradictory) and the cheap food shopping (I miss the days where I could go to lidl with £20 and get all my food for the week. Here it’s more like the equivalent of £60-70).

But it’s living somewhere like this that’s made me realise there’s so much more than money. In the uk it felt like if you were broke, your life was shit. One depended on the other

I emigrated just over 9 years ago, but I didn't flee. I sort of did it because I'd finished my degree and couldn't really think what to do next. I was at a loose end and I'd long been in love with the culture and language of Iceland and dreamed of living there, so I went. I will always be so thankful for the EU/EEA and freedom of movement.

It's brilliant here and now I'm a parent it compares particularly favourably with the UK. I won't be moving back. The weather and the sausages are definitely worse, though.

For me it was the cost and awfulness of private renting in the UK, the impossibility of buying a house, low pay, poor working conditions, the erosion of the welfare safety net and the generally callous attitude towards anyone struggling financially. Oh, and the class system generally: I can't see any other nation being as deferential towards its equivalent of Old Etonians, and just lying down while the ruling class dismantles society for its own profit, culminating in the disaster capitalist plot that is Brexit. I think I really am "fleeing", albeit in slow motion!

To me it felt like living in the UK was just going through the motions of life, without actually living.

I feel exactly the same. Perhaps it was just the sense of hopelessness when life at the bottom of the pile is financially unsustainable, and social mobility seems like a pipe dream. I know I feel much more alive in France; maybe it's just the novelty of being abroad that's keeping me on my toes. Time will tell.

In Australia it's now 50 degrees in the summer. And only getting hotter.

You realise it's not the same across the whole of Australia right? It's never been 50 where I live. We didn't have any fires this summer either.

I'll pick the miserable British weather over Australia's temperatures and inferno any day. It was devastating to watch it from here, I only hope the temperatures don't keep rising.

I stayed in the UK but moved to Scotland. Fewer people, less traffic, beautiful countryside. Devolution provides some protection against the Tories. I prefer the weather too.

We came back to the UK, and don't regret it. Belgium was so bureaucratic, and it was time to come home. We went because HM Forces sent dh there, and we stayed as he got a post retirement job there, but on the understanding he would do six years and then we could come back.

Yes, we had lots more money there, but that isn't everything, and doesn't make up for not having an innate understanding of how everything hangs together. The UK is home, Belgium never was.

Aveline...

A mumsnetter got harangued by the mums net gangsters and handed herself into the the local police station because

She released a gold fish into the Thames

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@Ravenfeet are you in a Scandinavian country? I am and would agree on the sausages and rain!! And the welfare for families is excellent!

Global warming means that hot places are becoming unbearably hot. In Australia it's now 50 degrees in the summer.

Rubbish. Yes it hits those temps occasionally, but certainly not often or everywhere. I'm in Perth where the climate is Mediterranean, and its heaven! Australia is a huge place, we don't all have the same weather, or even climate. We are as far away from Sydney here as London is from Turkey, so that shouldn't be too surprising.

drcb83 A Nordic country, yes - Iceland. Can't think of a better place to raise my children.

We left because DH was offered a job opportunity that was too good to turn down. I am keen to come back to the UK ASAP (despite being financially better off where we are).

Having lived here my entire adult life but born elsewhere in the EU, I decided to stay and naturalise. I never felt like a foreigner so thought getting the paperwork to match was the best option.
I don't idealise the UK. Life here has its downsides but I genuinely feel a lot of the challenges we face here are world wide. I don't agree with brexit but every country out there has the potential make similar drastic decisions in the near future and the problem as a foreigner is that you have absolutely no say in it whatsoever. The world is changing anyway. I don't think it's necessarily safer or better elsewhere in the long run.