To ask why people flee the UK?

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I haven't posted in a while and have name changed. In light of recent events such as brexit, royal drama and suicidal behaviour- I can't help but to pick up on a troubling undercurrent. So I guess I am asking for anyone to shed light on why you have fled the UK or why you might consider doing so?

Left for Canada 9 years ago as a job opportunity arose that couldn’t be ignored. Now have two houses, one in the Rockies. Exposing our son (born in Canada) to many more opportunities than he would have for in the UK.

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Interesting

I have family in one place you mentioned and they’d find your comments bizarre, especially with regards to women.

We have equal marriage now. Ireland decriminalising abortion. Harry Miller won on Friday. No it’s not perfect, but where is?

I do feel better about the UK post Brexit - I’m not white, just saying before someone comes along to stereotype me - but I do think the world follows patterns as a whole. Overpopulation has probably ruined everything everywhere.

The “world leading” stuff people mention often doesn’t have an effect on the average Jane. I know a lot of Londoners who were much much happier when it wasn’t so busy all the time, before rents got out of control, when you could have drinks on a Monday night and be the only person on the train when it terminated in Essex or Herts.

I’m sure the economy is technically doing better than those days, but quality of life was a lot higher.

Just to add, I don’t think I’ve ever come up against class issues but I think you might need to be upper class in the first place for this to happen.

I did have a brief friendship with a ridiculously rich woman but it didn’t last long. She said things like “you don’t hoover do you darling, it’s awfully heavy” and was visibly stunned when she saw my tiny flat! So, yeah, no point going on with that one! 😂

I left the UK for Ireland in 2003, and then emigrated to Oz in 2013. We came here because of the recession in Ireland, and we thought we would have a good chance at a better quality of life here. We were also sick of the bloody awful weather. I very much enjoyed living in London and Cork, but I like it better here, and we have found it much easier to get ahead in life.I have followed the Brexit debacle in horror, and feel very relieved we aren't there to experience it, although I do worry about friends and family.

I left the UK but it wasn’t fleeing. My husband is American and one of us had to move. So it was me. My reason was therefore love.

One of the best things about the UK is the weather. Scotland has the best weather. Imagine roasting in Australia or Dubai.

Mainly because of Brexit but what really made us determined was Boris winning the election.

I love this country but I can't stomach another 5 years of this.

No fleeing for me, I bloody love my country and wouldn't want to live anywhere but here. We do however plan on spending the winter months in warmer climes when we are retired.

Autumn ... maybe some people are moving to countries with bad human / women rights but thats not the question.

OP was asking why people are leaving and I am saying Britain hasn't been a place where people were truly enthusiastic about their wealth opportunities for a VERY long time.

That means working/middle class kids (w no daddy connections), get a great job, pay off mortgages, provide for kids, little debt, an annual holiday, and a good pension by the time your 50-60? ... unless of course you're lucky enough to be a TV or footy star.

This country has never treated ALL its people as if they are its most important asset. People here are saying they left because THOSE opportunities are elsewhere. Believe them or not !!!

Decade after decade garbage politicians have lined their pockets while making opportunities worse across the country... and instead of us pointing fingers at them we've grumbled and moaned until we've followed them down the right wing Brexit-blame-foreigners-rabbit hole.

I as under the impression it was quite hard to emigrate to Canada & Australia these days?

I definitely understand the point about moving financially for a better quality of life. There is huge inequality in the UK & the government are going to need to raise money from somewhere. I feel for 25 yr olds paying extortionate student fees (which they may not need but employers demand degrees), high rents, scraping to buy their own home (& won't see anything like the historic gains), saving for a pension (state won't exist, NHS probably not in its current form), higher food & travel prices etc & probably higher taxes.

Yes its not easy ... Canada has very recently become alot harder we moved september 2018 but would not qualify now.

rainpain, The Australian government don't make emigration easy, but if you are in the right profession its not that difficult, especially if you can get sponsored. Approximately 30,000 Brits emigrate to Oz each year, and about 29% of the population here were born overseas, so its far from impossible.

I don’t see anything to flee from. I’m a single mum and here in the UK I can live my life, raise my child, have a mortgage, a career, a happy child. No-one judges or interferes.
We are very fortunate.

thanks for answering

1000 “ Believe them or not !!! ”

I never said I don’t believe anyone?

I love everyone who left the UK for Canada because there are more "opportunities" yet I fled Canada in 2004 because there were none!

The UK is great. I'm not a national but love it here. It has it's downsides, but so did the country I moved here from.

'Flee' is very insulting to those who actually do flee from countries due to war or oppression.

with every week that passes the lessons of history are forgotten more and more.

Not with disabled people, we are well aware we are reliving the 1930s in Germany.

Not with disabled people, we are well aware we are reliving the 1930s in Germany

What?

@sashh oh please stop. The Nazis gassed people with disabilities. Murdered them. You’re living in the lap of luxury compared to how they “lived”. Don’t be so insulting.

I left 16 years ago, didn't flee.
I left for better weather and quality of life. I do earn less money but I love where I live and the life I have. I would never go back to UK permanently.
When I go back to see family I feel like I don't belong, like I'm a foreigner.

@PleaseStopCallingMe
I'm moving to the UAE basically because of tax, but also because I have found it a cleaner, safer, more efficient and more welcoming country.

Oh dear, oh deary, deary me... You'll learn. Don't get me wrong, I love the UAE, home for many a long year and it has some seriously amazing attributes. But come back in five years and see if "tax", "more efficient"and "more welcoming" are still applicable.

I'm American and I left my country to marry an Englishman. He had a career and I was happy to leave my job to be with him so I left for love.

We lived in England for nearly nine years together but his career ended with the telecoms crash of 2000. We left to live in the USA due to economic reasons and the hope of better work opportunities.

We have lived in the USA for 16 years now but we are returning to England within the next few years. We have lots of sunshine and a decent standard of living but I lost my parents years ago and my in-laws are still around and my husband wants to be closer to them. We are moving for love again.

My great uncle and great aunt left the UK more than 60 years ago because he found a job as a draftsman in Canada. It's a beautiful place.