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To wonder why on earth Andrew Sabisky is in No.10 and find it worrying

116 replies

Squeazypeasy · 16/02/2020 15:21

He's an aide to Dominic Cummings according to reports and

-said women's sport is more comparable to the Paralympics that it is to mens sport

  • said it's unclear the extent to which FGM represents a serious risk to young girls
  • suggested enforced long term contraception at puberty to get around unplanned pregnancies creating what he describes as a permanent underclass.

Why is this man being allowed in number 10?

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megletthesecond · 17/02/2020 08:52

Is "his" Twitter account real? What sort of wanker uses the phrase "boutique theological hot-takes" ?

Tellmetruth4 · 17/02/2020 09:38

The kind who Cummings is impressed by. He thinks this is the way Silicon Valley types speak and believes this makes them more intelligent than other people.

He made a big show of saying he wants to get rid of Oxbridge types dominating politics but all he’s doing is replacing one type of traditional Oxbridge grad with another. The type you would be extremely nervous of if they got hold of gun.

This Sabinsky guy has zero emotional intelligence, political savvy, or stakeholder management skills. This is clear as no smart person wanting a long term career would post such stupid crap on Twitter.

Haggisfish · 17/02/2020 09:43

It is like some ridiculous tv comedy that no one would believe!

DuckWillow · 17/02/2020 09:55

I’ve done a bit of reading about him over the past few days. He’s “interesting” to say the least.

He’s been hired as he’s a “super forecaster” with a high degree of accuracy which I am guessing is where his value will be to the Govt.

He’s said all the things that have been quoted but is also on record as saying much of the stuff are ideas which make him feel uneasy and he wouldn’t want them implemented. Why mention the ideas then Andrew?

Anyway here he is in 2014 aged 24 talking about giving children a cognitive enhancing drug.

Given his views, then, would he think it acceptable for children with a low IQ to be educated by low IQ parents? “The benefits and productivity of a class size of one or two means mean it’s still worth it,” he shrugs.

We next turn to his latest talk-circuit topic of mind-enhancing drugs. In particular he is interested in modafinil, a drug that stops narcoleptics from sleeping, but which also cuts the need for sleep in healthy people by two-thirds and appears to improve brain functioning.

The down side? In children there is evidence of a slightly elevated risk of Stevens-Johnson syndrome, a life-threatening condition in which skin rots. Hence the US drugs agency has not approved its use for juveniles.

But, Sabisky points out, evidence is building that more hours spent in quality classrooms increases pupil outcomes and life chances, particularly for poorer children.

“From a societal perspective the benefits of giving everyone modafinil once a week are probably worth a dead kid once a year,” he says, matter-of-factly.

I am aghast. But he reminds me there is a difference between the ideological and factual. He is personally uneasy about the ethics of many of the things he talks about and as a Christian – he married in church last year – he has moral views on the topics that may not be what people expect.

“But you have to separate yourself from what you feel and from what are the facts of the matter,” he says.“

Reassuring isn’t he? He’s being cold and hard about facts and removing all emotion. My autistic son can do the same but even he wouldn’t say “the occasional dead kid would be worth it.”

LakieLady · 17/02/2020 10:05

This guy's views are meat and drink to a certain type of headbanging Tory. Unfortunately, there are a few of them in the cabinet now, so expect more of this shite and for the perviously unthinkable to become only too thinkable as the entire political spectrum slides inexorably rightwards.

I'd love to know what Liz Truss, Priti Patel and Suella Braverman think of this guy's view that lack of a penis is a disability.

Superb political achievement, though, to paint Corbyn as some sort of unreconstructed Marxist-Leninist, when he would be a mainstream, centre-left social democrat almost anywhere else in Europe, then give houseroom to someone who is a sexist, eugenicist neo-fascist, and actually pay the fucker to advise on policy.

This is what you voted for, Tories, hope you're happy with it.

LakieLady · 17/02/2020 10:07

@PettyContractor, nice mental gymnnastics, but when you look at his other opinions, the odds on that being the case are on the slender side imo.

nibdedibble · 17/02/2020 10:08

I don't know how people can say "this isn't what Conservative voters voted for" when it was clear that Johnson has no scruples about the kind of people he surrounds himself with.

Please can we stop pretending that people who vote are not given information. It's been blindingly obvious for YEARS that those in charge of Brexit and the Conservative party are in no way decent people, they have no decent people around them any longer, and if as a voter you haven't seen that then please hold your hands up and be honest, say "I was ignorant but yes I voted for this" instead of pretending you didn't.

Tellmetruth4 · 17/02/2020 10:16

No surprise seeing Toby Young supporting him. To think a guy who tried to become a schools advisor is supporting a man who think dead kids are a price worth paying to test smart drugs.

longwayoff · 17/02/2020 10:17

Married? Bloody hell.

longwayoff · 17/02/2020 10:22

And Toby Young? Fab. Where's Delingpole? Cant be far behind. Not saying anymore, I'll be banned.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 17/02/2020 10:24

I am shocked he has the job

But it won’t be for long Tories will already have their plans for the next election and MPs are standing up to him

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 17/02/2020 10:28

All parties appear to comprehensively hate females.

Sadly, yes.

AlphaJura · 17/02/2020 10:32

I have just read that the cabinet are revolting and refusing to work with this man. There will be pressure on BJ to overrule Cummings and get rid of him.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 17/02/2020 10:48

The will get rid of him

He is bringing only bad publicity that’s why ....

LakieLady · 17/02/2020 10:49

Well they voted for a man who has frequent meetings with Steve fucking Bannon, so they did vote for this really

Quite. And there is evidence that they really don't give a shit about a huge swathe of our population.

We've seen the Tories decimate the benefits that people with disabilities often rely upon. We know that single parent families, 85-90% of which are headed by women, are also more likely to be on benefits and therefore disproportionately affected by so-called "welfare reform".

We know they've already shat on women and people with disabilities, so this really shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.

What is surprising, however, is that this fuckwit seems to have no idea that his views are anathema to anyone who's not a complete cunt and that he is willing to express them so boldly.

I suspect his status is that of "useful idiot". He's expressing opinions of such extremity that less draconian measures will seem reasonable by comparison.

Squeazypeasy · 17/02/2020 11:16

I suspect his status is that of "useful idiot". He's expressing opinions of such extremity that less draconian measures will seem reasonable by comparison.

This crossed my mind too LakieLady

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Tellmetruth4 · 17/02/2020 11:18

And mine Lakielady.

EerieSilence · 17/02/2020 11:23

He's in the Downing Street because his opinions reflect the opinions of Tory voters. Simplez.

ErrolTheDragon · 17/02/2020 12:20

He's in the Downing Street because his opinions reflect the opinions of Tory voters.

I seriously doubt that. Sounds like he doesn't reflect the opinions of Tory cabinet ministers.

I think he'll be got rid of and hope this debacle will weaken Cummings position.

OnlyTheTitOfTheLangBerg · 17/02/2020 12:44

A lot of people voted Conservative (TBF a lot of people voted for all parties) without any real knowledge of or interest in politics, who has met with whom, who is employed behind the scenes, who donates to which party or anything beyond a vague sense garnered from headlines and memes shared by their friends on social media that Tories are better for the economy and Corbyn loves terrorists. The information is out there if you know where to look for it, but not everyone knows or cares enough to do so, regardless of their natural political affiliations.

Patroclus · 17/02/2020 12:52

Tory voters dont just think this stuff. I hear them say it all the time. Had one lovely old tory corner me the other day in a posh beverley pub and talk at me about his fantasies of 'gassing the fucking poles so my kids can get jobs'.

EerieSilence · 17/02/2020 13:00

@ErrolTheDragon - he's only saying out loud what those ministers and their voters think and don't want to say out loud - for now, that it.
Just what Patroclus said.

Squeazypeasy · 17/02/2020 13:45

According to the Guardian website now, the Government spokesman refused to distance themselves from Sabisky's views.

Patroclus that is truly shocking. What a vile thing for them to have said.

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ErrolTheDragon · 17/02/2020 13:48

Saying 'Tory voters' agree with this stuff is about as reasonable as saying labour and liberal voters all agree that TWAW and rapists should be in women's jails - which have been overtly stated by leaders and would-be leaders.

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