To ask if you've ever felt like this about a celebrity's death

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I didn't know Caroline and she didn't know me, but I can't shake this feeling of sadness about her death. It's really stopped me in my tracks.

To know that someone else felt like life wasn't worth living is just the most horrendous and awful thing to me. I do believe she would have made it through the court case the other side. I'm wondering what she was thinking during her final moments.

I feel so saddened.

Has anyone else ever felt like this about a celebrity when they've passed? If so, who? It probably sounds really pathetic as I didn't know her, but I can't stop thinking about it

I was so shocked and upset. I've never watched Love Island but did see her co-present the x-factor with Olly Murs and have seen articles about her in the press.

I recently found my DM dead (not to suicide) so Caroline's dad finding her dead really struck a chord with me. It's utterly sad.

When I heard about Peaches Geldof my blood absolutely ran cold because it seemed so out of the blue.

With Caroline I had a feeling something like this would happen when I saw the pics of her arriving at court. Even when she posted the pic of her with the dog just a couple of days ago, she no longer looked like herself. I just had a feeling. So it wasn’t such a shock when I read the news.

In terms of other celebrity deaths that have upset me, I was devastated about Ayrton Senna. I watched it live on the tv and then obsessed about it for months afterwards (I was a teenager). Similarly Lisa Lefteye from TLC and Aaliyah - although again I was relatively young.

Ian Curtis.

It's so unbelievably sad for all involved. I've been thinking about it all day. I wasn't even a massive fan but just the thought of what that poor woman must have been feeling is heartbreaking. Such a sad loss. Celebrity deaths have never affected me before but this one has really played on my mind. You just never know what someone is going through.

I just cant help thinking what the reaction would be if a famous man (Chris Brown anyone?) had smashed his GF's head in with a lamp while she slept, and it hadnt been the first time he had violently attacked her as it wasnt for CF against her partner, and then killed himself. How much sympathy would that muster? How many of you would be saying "Oh he was clearly very troubled"? I would put a bet on Not. One.

Caroline Flack was a violent habitual domestic abuser, plain and simple. That she may have had other issues as well does not excuse what she did.

I know exactly what you mean - in the past celebrities have died and I have been shocked but not really 'affected'. I felt quite out of sorts all day yesterday I could not stop thinking about it. I felt tearful and almost guilty.

I am not sure why. I think it's because we were all sort of warned it could happen, in there were a lot of red flags but it's as though we collectively sat back and thought - she will be ok. She will be out for a while (like Ant) but then back as though nothing had ever happened. Strutting into the villa.

And then this. When she said she was going through the worst time of her life she meant it. When she looked frail at Court it was not an act it was real.

Such a vibrant, beautiful person who just exuded 'life' is gone forever at her own hand. And we all just watched it happen and did nothing. So desperately sad.

Oh please, if she was a man there would be MORE mourning. Men get forgiven for their "mistakes" and "scandals" therefore are less likely to be driven to suicide. Look at Kobe Bryant. Accused of rape, basically admitted it when settling with his victim out of court. When he died, there was mass mourning.

Caroline Flack was a violent habitual domestic abuser, plain and simple. That she may have had other issues as well does not excuse what she did

Can you please show where her convictions for this are? You are on all the threads about Caroline making this same comment. She had not even been to trial. To state what she "was" as fact is grossly inaccurate.

DV is wrong. That doesn't make pillioring someone on social media ok. Nor does it mean that Caroline wasn't very mentally unwell. Nor does it mean that her taking her own life isn't tragic.

If social media comments DID contribute to her mental.state then making similar comments here, as fact rather than allegations, seems deeply disrespectful to her family.

By all accounts she wasn't a very nice person so i don't get why people are so upset if it was a male who had done all the things she had this thread and all the rest would be totally different

Nobody knows the truth about the alleged abuse other than the two people involved.
Her death is tragic for her family and friends. Can you begin to imagine that life is so unbearable that you can't carry on. It's utterly tragic that she could only see pain and a deep black hole. I regularly don't see the point of life, but keep going for my beautiful daughter.

Just saw on Sky News now that an ambulance was called to her home on Friday night, but she 'didn't need treatment then'. She was found dead the next day.

I've called an ambulance when I've felt suicidal. Sometimes I'd go with them, more times I wouldn't. If you say you're not suicidal, there's not much they can do. Incidentally, the most recent time, one of the paramedics was quite stern with me and said - we need to be sure you're ok now, as what happens is we go away now, and people are found dead the next day. We don't want that to happen to you. Happens more often than you'd think perhaps.

She also apparently got confirmation from the CPS on Friday (Valentine's Day) that they were proceeding with the case.

The straw that broke the camel's back.

What usually happens, if you call 999 for an ambulance, the police respond first. They wait with you for the ambulance. I've been brought to 'a place of safety' and had police remain with me in A&E once.

Feeling suicidal is horrendous. And half of what you think about when you come out of the fog is how much police time you're wasting.

Police only intervene in getting you to a place of safety if they have reason to believe that you are a threat to your own life and refuse to go with the ambulance. It's not a quick decision, it usually involves them speaking to their sergeant on the phone, and the sergeant gives them approval for them to take you or not.

If she was already struggling with her mental health, I can A understand how she may have lost the plot on the night of the alleged assault and B how having lost her career, her reputation, her boyfriend, her income, her future, facing perhaps a custodial sentence, that she was a high suicide risk.

She just couldn't take any more. I really hope she rests in peace now.

It's a great pity she didn't have friends or family to come and stay with her during this difficult period. I know everyone is busy with work and life, but loneliness is a killer when you're feeling suicidal.

Luca funnily enough apart from the disputed incident recently which could’ve also possibly been a case of self harm from what I’ve read, I haven’t seen anything to suggest she was a bad person. In fact it struck me how everyone seemed to feel the same way about her and spoke of how funny, loving, kind and supportive she was of everyone.

Given she had no previous convictions and the alleged victim was adamant he didn't want to press charges they should have let it go - no doubt the CPS thought they would get savaged in the press if they didn't proceed - as the victim is male and the defendant famous. Someone would have got savaged in the press and on social media whatever they decided to do.

What about good old Boris?

@NoSharon that's not always the case. I work for the police as a call taker. If we get a call from someone saying they are suicidal we call ambulance. We only attend for reports of weapons, previous violent behaviour from anyone at the address or refusal to travel IF the ambulance feel the person is a danger to themself. The only time we get there prior to ambulance is if they ring police first rather than ambulance. And according to reports she did have a worried friend staying with her. They had gone to the shop and she took the opportunity to end her life while they were out of the house.

@PyongyangKipperbang and you have proof of that, do you? Where are the court reports? Not saying she wasnt guilty on this occasion but this is trial by media. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? And, even if she had assaulted her current partner, that's between her, him, the police and CPS. We werent there and dont know the full story. Only two people really do. One of them is dead and the other has been nothing but supportive to her since the day it happened. He chose to forgive her. He didnt want this.

Caroline Flack's death has affected me too. My husband rang me to tell me and I felt like I'd been punched in the stomach. Think it's the fact that she always seemed so happy and bubbly and was only a year older than me. It's just so sad that she, or anyone for that matter, feels that taking their life is the only option to them. A friend of mine has asked for help for suicidal feelings and was basically told until she actually attempts suicide they cant do anything. Such a sad world we live in.

So if your 17yr old came home with a 32yr old and introduced them as bf/gf you wouldn't be at all concerned

@NoSharon that's not always the case. I work for the police as a call taker. If we get a call from someone saying they are suicidal we call ambulance. We only attend for reports of weapons, previous violent behaviour from anyone at the address or refusal to travel IF the ambulance feel the person is a danger to themself. The only time we get there prior to ambulance is if they ring police first rather than ambulance. And according to reports she did have a worried friend staying with her. They had gone to the shop and she took the opportunity to end her life while they were out of the house.

Incorrect.

Doit - I wasn't talking about calling for police. I was talking about when you call 999 and ask for an ambulance, if they can't get an ambulance to you in time, they WILL, DO AND HAVE, sent police on MORE THAN ONE OCCASION to wait with you until the ambulance arrives. The only reason I would ring 999, would be if I was just about to do something, so they see it as an imminent threat to life or something - believe me I've argued with the police rocking up within 5 minutes and said, I didn't call you!!!!

It's a great pity she didn't have friends or family to come and stay with her during this difficult period.

@NoSharon, she did have a friend staying with her. Caroline took her own life when the friend popped to the shops.

I'm sure @Doidoit19 is not incorrect and is giving accurate information as a call handler herself, but perhaps your experiences are different because you live in different places?