Sorry, another Philip Schofield one...

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I really couldn't care less about Philip Schofield's sexuality (or anyone else's) and good for him for finally being true to himself. But what makes me quite cross is all this talk of honesty and bravery, and the self-indulgent, tortured confessional in front of the nation when really it's of no importance to anyone who doesn't know him personally.

In the clip of his chat with Holly he asks repeatedly, "When is the right time?" In my opinion, the right time is before you get married to someone who believes you are straight. It's not brave, or honest, to make someone unwittingly provide you with the benefits of a heterosexual relationship, including children, so you can be viewed by the public as a "respectable family man". It's actually rather selfish.

I had a brief relationship with someone who I later discovered was gay. He didn't even have the balls to tell me directly, and it seriously screwed me up for a long time. I can't imagine what it must be like to find out your husband of 27 years is homosexual.

I'm not gay, so perhaps I am being unreasonable as I don't know what it is like to come out to friends and family (although I imagine it is easier now than it was thirty years ago) and I don't know whether PS really believed that he was in love with his wife when they got married. But I do think that leaving a duplicitous life which affects other people is not a kind or honourable thing to do and I feel very sorry for his wife and daughters who I think really have been brave.

Oh dear! Sorry DaisyChain!

Well wouldn't you know it ... all clips of TM, PS and HW on YouTube have had Comments switched off.

Plus, unless he changes his name, his ambitions are now shot, his career/livelihood in bits or plateaued, his relationship if it was a relationship, over/bitter/hidden. I don't think he was going to expose PS and if they were in a relationship and it was consensual, the way it has been dealt with is a death knell. If they weren't and he's been dragged under the bus that's even worse. And if it has been acrimonious and he is heartbroken then he is still has my sympathies as the 'other man' always gets tarred when in fact if he is single and hasn't made any vows himself, he's not the marriage-wrecker here, is he?

Got this from BIL who works in industry, so no more than second hand gossip but there was allegedly a huge row between Piers and Martin Frizzel late last week. Now BIL likes to embellish a tale but he reckons Piers was shouting the odds about journalistic integrity. Oh the irony

People wondering why PM kept Schumer had me wondering how much control the James grant talent agency have over their clients

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*@Oblomov20 ok so the drip feeds continue - I haven't been following all the websites - so he even knew when he got married but he was so happy so he decided not to mention it.

Not "I need to be honest and come clean because I'm affecting someone else's life in a massive way ...."*

Yes exactly. No reference to his wife's needs. That says a lot.

And I actually don't find a relationship with that age gap to be the worst thing ever as long as it was consensual and did not start under 16...there are many gay couples with a massive age gap. Without generalising too much, isn't there a gay daddy/boi niche as well as bears, cubs etc so each to their own but I do think the poor lad having to move jobs, erase his existence and go into hiding is a lot to go through. I hope that's not the case.
Paul O'Grady 64 Husband Andre 37
Stephen Fry 62 Husband Elliott 32
Dustin Lance Black 45 Husband Tom 25
In ten years' time 67 and 32 isn't that far off the above May-September romances. I would not want it for my son but I would let him decide himself. 22 however feels so young to me even though I had finished uni by then myself.
No idea what you talk about or what you have in common with any age gap that big irrespective of gender (sex). Plus half your age plus seven would mean Phillip's younger man now without the eyebrow raising and purse clutching would be 35. So he's 13 years out.

Digital spy have removed any threads referencing PS , even ones that have been running pre the announcement. I guess the super injunction is in full swing.

Well apart from Tom and Dustin the rest of the couples are older men (the famous, rich types) and the much younger men (who aren’t either). I don’t really know the people so excuse me if they are all high falutin’ types.

Where are all the other gay men that PS has slept with?
Why haven't they commented?

It's all over the place: 'yeah yeah, everyone knew he was gay years ago..... on the set of Joseph .... and before..... because he was quite open about it? "

So where are all these men?

Maybe they are waiting to see how it goes or negotiating a newspaper story. Or don’t want to have their faces splashed over the media!

I would imagine that 'all the other gay men PS is alleged to have slept with' are waiting to see what pans out where.

Also that they may feel some guilt about PS and wife relationship.

And, let's face it, who's going to want to be the one that comes out (pun intended) first?

Maybe PS is good ensuring folk stay loyal to him.

Couldn't believe how quickly Piers, Kelly, and Sharon shut down Joan Collins this morning when all she doing was being curious and trying to make sense of it all - and asking questions that we are all asking.

What I am saying is that young people also have a right to express their sexuality and have their own agency. That is not to excuse predation or grooming in any shape, way or form. But at this moment none of us know what kind of relationship there was, how long it lasted or when it began. The fact that the PR worked overtime to put out a safe space/mentoring story was laughable though...Who on earth would want to mentored by someone so far in the closet they're stuck in Narnia? As well as learning Daddy and Boi today I have also learnt there is a phrase Narnia Gay. How unlike the life of our dear Quee...oh wait.

He is clearly trying to hide something and it most probably has to do with the young runner.maybe the age of the young man at the start of the affair, maybe a history of affairs with very young men, how he treated them etc

No doubt it will all come out as even with super injunctions it will be impossible to completely quash this.

Well I knew only one and he was a friend of a friend - who introduced us. It was a secret then and I don't think nearly 30 yrs later he'd go public.
I think most people wouldn't want the intrusion unless they had a very good reason for revenge in some way.

Well yes lord it does remind me of the Caroline Aherne What first attracted you to millionaire Paul gag! But the dynamics are meant to be emotionally supportive, nurturing, sexually encouraging etc from what I have read, not personal experience - apart from in Blackpool where I met the loveliest couple with such an age gap.
Good question oblomov: one dreamcoat is not going to say anything if that particular rumour was true but you would think there might be others - thing is everyone holds the kissnteller in contempt don't they and especially with the so brave message, whoever did come forward would be subject to vitriol. Even if I thought, you hypocrite/liar, we slept together ten years ago, I wouldn't come forward to spill the tea at this point, for truth nor money. Would you?

Just been talking to a gay (male) friend on line. He initially bought into the hero narrative, had always thought PS was gay, surprised by the wife/kids etc. Then the runner was raised - he didnt know initial contact was made under 18, so raised the power balance. Now he knows about the initial contact (from the aged 10 picture) he is absolutely horrified. I would think that is quite a normal reaction...

First rule of SuperInjunction, we can't talk about existence of an Injunction

Now he knows about the initial contact (from the aged 10 picture)

Ten? I missed that!

Aw that showreel...he's actually pretty decent. I like Northern presenters and wouldn't mind an openly gay young presenter as a role model. Such a shame.

smashstore someone posted it on here - the Two Faced Theatre Company (no, I'm not going there with that one...) of which PS is some kind of patron.

I find his voice too high pitched and grating for my liking.