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Sorry, another Philip Schofield one...

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UnaCorda · 08/02/2020 20:20

I really couldn't care less about Philip Schofield's sexuality (or anyone else's) and good for him for finally being true to himself. But what makes me quite cross is all this talk of honesty and bravery, and the self-indulgent, tortured confessional in front of the nation when really it's of no importance to anyone who doesn't know him personally.

In the clip of his chat with Holly he asks repeatedly, "When is the right time?" In my opinion, the right time is before you get married to someone who believes you are straight. It's not brave, or honest, to make someone unwittingly provide you with the benefits of a heterosexual relationship, including children, so you can be viewed by the public as a "respectable family man". It's actually rather selfish.

I had a brief relationship with someone who I later discovered was gay. He didn't even have the balls to tell me directly, and it seriously screwed me up for a long time. I can't imagine what it must be like to find out your husband of 27 years is homosexual.

I'm not gay, so perhaps I am being unreasonable as I don't know what it is like to come out to friends and family (although I imagine it is easier now than it was thirty years ago) and I don't know whether PS really believed that he was in love with his wife when they got married. But I do think that leaving a duplicitous life which affects other people is not a kind or honourable thing to do and I feel very sorry for his wife and daughters who I think really have been brave.

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sunshinesupermum · 09/02/2020 18:13

All the gay men I've been close enough to to ask have said they've always known, but none of them ever had a serious relationship with a woman. This.

SpinneyHill · 09/02/2020 18:14

Why can we not name him? he's been named in press frequently over the years as well as on TM where he was 'the favourite' runner....then the story about him leaving was in the Mirror.
It wasn't lost amongst the million stories about runners leaving this morning because he is the only one that ever got a write up.

It's not a secret!

yolofish · 09/02/2020 18:19

My DD (now 23) got a single day's work experience thing on TM, due to someone she and I met during a PR thing with Lorraine. She was disappointed not to meet P & H but said Ruth was absolutely lovely, Eamonn a bit less (but she was only the work experience girl, so...) TBF I'd prefer she didnt attract the attention of the well paid powerful man. And I'd imagine that MM's mother would prefer it had not happened too.

Dustarr73 · 09/02/2020 18:22

I think PS came out thinking that would be the end of the matter.But its not.Hence the Sun interview.

But hes fucked now,everything will come out.Its going to bite him on the arse,big time.

NutEIIaFitzgerald · 09/02/2020 18:22

Connection - Simon Schofield (no relation) - runner's mentor, had produced a show PS was in. PS could well have given the work experience as a favour and followed the protegee back as etiquette. Runner gets invited back to TM the following year having done a decent job/got on well with cast and crew and has been working steadily since on TM DOI and other PS shows.
Runner is moved to LW for reasons yet unconfirmed.

BeyondReasonablyDoubtsLots · 09/02/2020 18:27

"followed the protegee back as etiquette''

Etiquette? Surely linking your social media presence to an unrelated child's is an obvious safeguarding nightmare, not common etiquette?!

Even if that is all that happened

Greenpop21 · 09/02/2020 18:44

Just watched a bit of Dancing on Ice. PS looks haunted. I don’t normally watch it so don’t know if HW usually does most of the talking but she was tonight.

NutEIIaFitzgerald · 09/02/2020 18:46

Safeguarding nightmare for a teacher, less so if you were following back a family friend's friend/mentee and didn't want to offend - poor judgement in retrospect but he follows twelve thousand people.
Not defending anyone here, it doesn't look good, but until facts are proven it is still libel to suggest predation.

Anjo2011 · 09/02/2020 18:50

@Greenpop21 he looks haunted because he knows the proverbial is about to hit the fan and his time is up!

NutEIIaFitzgerald · 09/02/2020 18:54

My sympathies are with the lad in question. Either he has been used up and spat out or he has worked bloody hard but been subject to rumours at work because he is also gay or he has been groomed or harassed or had his heart broke. None of those options look good. The only thing concrete is that he has been sidelined/had to move jobs and put under media scrutiny and had his character maligned. He is still very young to have gone through any of that.

BackInTime · 09/02/2020 19:07

Completely didn't buy the whole 'brave' PR stunt on Friday. The media have been chipping away for months about issues with him at TM, pretty obvious that there's more going on than we know about and he decided to get in first to try and squash it.

smashstore · 09/02/2020 19:08

Just watched a bit of Dancing on Ice. PS looks haunted. I don’t normally watch it so don’t know if HW usually does most of the talking but she was tonight.

I'm watching and thought he looked much better than he did on Friday. No difference in the presenting balance at all.

hedera45 · 09/02/2020 19:10

If PS didn't realise he was gay until recently (which I doubt) then we could have told him years ago - it was so obvious. Brave? Nah - just self-serving and wanting to be the victim. I think it's brave for public figures to be open about being gay instead of hiding behind the veneer of marriage. I feel sorry for his wife and daughters who are now being wheeled out to profess their admiration of him. I really can't believe that neither of his daughters has once said "How could you do this to Mum?"

Greenpop21 · 09/02/2020 19:12

Oh right @smashstore like I said, I don’t normally watch it.

Gr3yCl3y · 09/02/2020 19:15

How was it obvious? Going by his daughter’s Insta I think not. Maybe he felt shit enough and they focus on him as a dad for them to want to pull him to shreds like the lovely MN pack do.

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cheeseomelette · 09/02/2020 19:20

One of Ps' daughters is involved in managing some of the Tm presenters. Including Rochelle. She can't say anything.

It's all incredibly incestuous and the whole corrupt set up needs properly investigating by itv.

TheWordmeister · 09/02/2020 19:24

Just watched a bit of Dancing on Ice. PS looks haunted.

Haunted, my arse. He looks perfectly normal. Some people thrive on schadenfreude.

RapidRainbow · 09/02/2020 19:27

Again to add to whatever narrative I feed, I genuinely hope that if there has been a relationship, it's just coincidental that they met when MM was younger, the industry is very intertwined.

I think PS is doing a good job on DOI and coming across well, so I hope it is a twitter fuelled rumour based on scant information!

RapidRainbow · 09/02/2020 19:30

I'm watching on catch up, found the Ashley Banjo comments quite moving. Feel so sorry for PS if the MM narrativee is not what it seems, perhaps his marriage was an open relationship for a long time. Perhaps MM really is just a scorned lover.

hedera45 · 09/02/2020 19:39

@Gr3yCl3y Re: 'obvious', put it down to 'gaydar'. It never fails in this house. And to pre-empt any mistaken opinion of me, I'm not homophobic - my best male friend is gay.

emilybrontescorsett · 09/02/2020 19:40

Why do people assume PS had an open marriage and SS didn't mind her husband shagging men? Would you assume that if PS had been cheating on her with a 20 something young woman?
If they had an open marriage why not say so.
Why doesn't with PS or SS say we tried to make it work but we have always had an open marriage.
If the men and women I know whose partner left them for someone of the same sex, the cheated on partner Did not know anything about it. The cliche ' the last to know' was always the case. Not one of them had been told either:
A) their partner was homosexual
B) their partner was going to cheat on them.
All of them were badly affected.
Some of them had children and yes the children were severely fucked up by their father leaving to live with another man.

Gr3yCl3y · 09/02/2020 19:45

GaydarAngry

My best friend is gay, oh that clears you then.Hmm

UnsuitableAvocado · 09/02/2020 19:47

I so far haven't commented on any of the PS threads. But I did watch the TM interview.
All I can say is I agree with a PP that if it had been Holly Willoughby's husband came out as gay, the tearful and pain filled interview would perhaps have been all about her and how Men shouldn't mislead / dupe women for years and years of marriage. And how to support her through that.

OhioOhioOhio · 09/02/2020 19:56

What did A Banjo say?