Sorry, another Philip Schofield one...

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I really couldn't care less about Philip Schofield's sexuality (or anyone else's) and good for him for finally being true to himself. But what makes me quite cross is all this talk of honesty and bravery, and the self-indulgent, tortured confessional in front of the nation when really it's of no importance to anyone who doesn't know him personally.

In the clip of his chat with Holly he asks repeatedly, "When is the right time?" In my opinion, the right time is before you get married to someone who believes you are straight. It's not brave, or honest, to make someone unwittingly provide you with the benefits of a heterosexual relationship, including children, so you can be viewed by the public as a "respectable family man". It's actually rather selfish.

I had a brief relationship with someone who I later discovered was gay. He didn't even have the balls to tell me directly, and it seriously screwed me up for a long time. I can't imagine what it must be like to find out your husband of 27 years is homosexual.

I'm not gay, so perhaps I am being unreasonable as I don't know what it is like to come out to friends and family (although I imagine it is easier now than it was thirty years ago) and I don't know whether PS really believed that he was in love with his wife when they got married. But I do think that leaving a duplicitous life which affects other people is not a kind or honourable thing to do and I feel very sorry for his wife and daughters who I think really have been brave.

I've said it before. His display on TM is a huge knock back & blow for the lgbtq+ community.
It's like going back 30 years.

Oh and also if there has never been any secrets between him and his wife then he is implying that she knew from the outset, which means he could have come out many years ago.

This has nothing to do with Brexit. It does have a lot to do with ITV. Their decision to give him a platform for his interview especially in light of the bullying allegations and the rumours about the runner, is definitely morally dubious.

As employers, they have a responsibility to school pupils visiting the set, to runners working with influential figures and to staff who report bullying - ITV are trying to brush all of that under the carpet by pushing their 'brave' PS bullshit. I hope it all fall downs around them.

Really interesting comment @MsMiaWallace. The whole thing has felt really odd to me and then I realised after reading something in the media that the odd thing is that coming out as gay when you're in his position and in his job will cause him no problem at all in his professional life.

Oh and essentially he's breaking no new ground whatsoever.

I think that, for lots of reasons, Phil, Holly and ITV will come to regret that cringey coming out segment on Friday.

Doodee

I totally agree.

I agree!

100% agree with op. I've said as much on here in recent days, unfortunately my comments were deleted

I just wish people would stfu and get on with their lives , I’m sick of people ‘coming out ‘ being brave ‘ sharing their life. I don’t care ffs 😡😡

Don't know if has been mentioned already as thread too long to read! But what I don't get is if it was an open secret at the BBC which I don't doubt, that how come Eammon Holmes didn't know? Plus what did he mean about Holly in the hot tub with him- does that mean that Holly Steph and Dan (Holly's husband) have always known but Eammon and Ruth didn't? Is his wife shattered him coming out because she already knew and didn't want him to come out or because the whole thing a shock?, Plus he says he's not planning a relationship but what about the rumours that he's seeing a runner? Nothing adds up. Overall he's a creep for using a beard. Of course his wife will say she'll support him what choice does she have or else she will be accused of being homophobic. I too reckon something was about to come out so he beat them to it. Sick of seeing him on the TV all the time hope this supposedly 'brave' (sic) action doesn't promote his career. Loads of other gay presenters on tv who've been honest. He's just a mega lier.

The thing is....its irrelevant that hes gay. Hes married. He's entered into a binding legal contract to be with one person.
Once you're married, you dont stop fancying other people. .you just dont do anything about it
So what if he fancies men? You just dont do anything about it

^This

If PS was to be outed by MM, then this has been handled very badly. Noone is denying MM is involved, a stark contrast to how quick PS was to defend Eamonn. If MM was 18, no law was broken and its quite vicious of MM to threaten to blow his cover HOWEVER...

It's clear in the interviews that MM was absolutely dazzled by PS and idolised him. If PS was a mentor to him, he abused his position of power from the outside looking in but as we don't know how their relationship developed its not fair to completely assume this, its highly possible they have just grown closer Iver the last six years (MM now being 24) and that CAN happen. MMs Facebook has him listed as 'Interested in: Women' so the bonding over his journey to accepting he may be gay is plausible.

So it may be a straightforward case of an affair, not necessarily turning nasty but enough to bring things to a head for PS.

If MM did want to out PS and has now being stopped, that is unwise unless they had an amicable agreement which seems unlikely. From a PR standpoint, this could be detrimental as still seeking his pound of flesh, MM could still now report that he was groomed from a young age and has some vague evidence but lots of inside knowledge to back the claim up.

If he does say this, I won't immediately assume its a revenge claim though. It will be interesting to watch this play out but I do feel the attempts to appear transparent have failed on PS part as its clear there's elements not yet explained. Providing its all legal though, I guess neither him or his wife need to discuss things further.

You know nothing about the situation with Phil and his wife so why are you bothering to speculate. She may have known for years. She may have known before they married. Who knows!! @TheLightSideOfTheMoon I’ve read he was about to be outed by some teenager.

And wrt my previous post, I soeka neutrally, I don't mind PS and am open minded to the outcome.

One thing I will add though, an allegation of grooming coukd blow itv apart with so many turning a blind eye, Holly Willoughby, her husband and other crew.

Pretty big assumption isn't it?

Not really, no. I'm pretty sure most people saying coming out isn't brave on here have absolutely no idea what it's like to do it themselves.

I just wish people would stfu and get on with their lives , I’m sick of people ‘coming out ‘ being brave ‘ sharing their life. I don’t care ffs

The whole purpose of PS's existence is to court media attention. That's his business! The day these attention-seekers like PS et al are granted their wish for the media to leave them alone so they have 'privacy to spend time with their family' yada yada, is the day their career ends.

PS came across as weak and self-obsessed, no brave and proud in that TM 'interview', all that sycophancy and gushing, I switched off YouTube after 5 mins it was cringe-making. Underlying whatever conflicts he might feel (as do thousands of other people who come out to their friends and family all the time!), PS's first priority is PS. He's a hardened media man, who has made decisions in his life which prioritise his personal media image.

Social media gives these people a ready platform to over-share with people they are self-deluded enough to believe give a damn.

Ha! Amanda Holden's ;-) instagram:

''always more interesting what goes on behind the scenes''

a propos of nothing, eh, Manda?

it's getting very personal on twitter.

Ann wtf is a 'Brexit type'? You do know half the country voted for it. And what has it got to do with PS or ITV or the BBC

@mammiesharkie yes that is what's happened. It's all over the net. Just google "Phillip Schofield runner" and "Phillip Schofield flat Southwark".

Bloody hell.
I've just been on Twitter.
I don't watch TM.
It's never been the same since Richard & Judy left but my word if what they are saying on there is true I hope PS never works again.
Absolutely disgusting and yes if it had been a girl with a 50 year old married man, he would have been arrested by now.

His wife is saving face now,But give it a few years when the dust has settled she will blow the lid completely off.When he dumps her,which he will do because shes surplus to requirements.

I never liked him,egotistical twat.Even in the broom cupboard i always preferred Gordon.

Who is MM?