To think Tracy Brabin should be able to wear what she wants ?

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She's been the subject of criticism and vitriol all day about her dress, which she apparently wore to an earlier social event. She's a bright, lively and committed MP, who cares what she wears?

Well, she has been treated harshly but it IS inappropriate attire for the house of commons. She should have worn a jacket/shawl.

Oh thanks.

I didn't read the article.

I don't want to see her bare naked shoulders anymore

What is wrong with shoulders? Genuine question

Are naked ankles ok?

I think the vitriol was ridiculous but if you want to be taken seriously you need to dress the part. That might be right or wrong but it absolutely would have made the front pages if a man had his shoulder out in the HoC IMO

Shoulder, meh. I don’t want to see her armpit crease.

Why 😂

She was saying today that breast feeding is now approved in HoC so we might be seeing more bare naked shoulders very soon

Just not Michael Fabricant please

Armpits and shoulders the pinnacle of debauchery .

A bikini on the beach? Normal. Walking down the high street? Odd. That dress in a restaurant? Normal. In the House of Commons? Odd.

You can breast feed without showing your shoulders, or indeed anything else.

@Noeuf then you totally missed the point of her calling out the misogynist trolls 🙄🙄

@PanicAndRun Apologies, I didn't realise you were quoting another article. I thought you were saying YOU are John Leech. Think it was the lack of quotation marks that confused me.

Shoulder and armpit crease = inappropriate as part of us which is normally covered in formal situations. Just that. It's not a tricky concept.

She was saying today that breast feeding is now approved in HoC so we might be seeing more bare naked shoulders very soon grin

Crikey, I wouldn't want to see her breast feed then if she thinks a woman needs to get her shoulders out to breastfeed. How weird!

When I see her I'm always reminded that she replaced Jo Cox in Batley and Spen and it makes me a bit
I watch a lot of politics and she is definitely trying to get noticed. She pops up regularly as a talking head. I don't like her much.

Boris may appear untidy with hair like a haystack, but he doesn't display any unnecessary flesh!

The whole of Boris Johnson is unnecessary flesh

Not appropriate. I would have a word with anyone (man or woman) who turned up to work dressed like that (or the male equivalent).

She doesn’t deserve the trolling but dressing appropriately is really a relatively simple thing to achieve. Every other female MP manages it.

As for people criticising Jeremy C. he looks very smart these days.

Alsohuman You claim you're in your 70's so you were born post WW2; women then wore skirts well over the knee, so certainly clothes baring the shoulders since you were were born in ANY decade after, was and is considered sexy...especially at work.

So If you want to make a little point try to be truthful with it.

Was her dress even in the news before her tweet? All she did by ‘calling out’ the insults was bring them (and herself) to everyone’s attention. You’re never going to put twitter trolls in their place, they’re best ignored.

I think we all need to get over seeing Tracy's shoulder. I am all for appropriate attire when it is necessary, but it is not the end of the world when somebody gets it a bit wrong, is it? I can see how all the circumstances conspired to make it happen. It's fine. I care far more about whether an MP is doing their best to do a good job than what they wear. Tracy is still a relatively new MP and Jo Cox was always going to be a hard act to follow, but I always get the impression that Tracy is doing a good job and actually cares.

But Shouldergate isn't really about all that, is it? It is just another excuse for the haters to crawl out and abuse someone on the basis that she is a woman standing up and making herself heard, and in that place too. How dare she.

*Alsohuman You claim you're in your 70's so you were born post WW2; women then wore skirts well over the knee, so certainly clothes baring the shoulders since you were were born in ANY decade after, was and is considered sexy...especially at work.

So If you want to make a little point try to be truthful with it*

I don’t claim to be in my 70s. I claim to be - and am - in my 60s. Bare shoulders have not, until these neo puritanical times, been regarded as flaunting sexuality. And I’ve seen many women wearing cold shoulder tops at work so why the outrage over Brabin’s dress, I have no idea.

Although the dress code is not written down, most people know there is one and work within the rules. For men, collar & ties were compulsory until June 2017 when Bercow said no-tie was OK (mainly due to Jared O'Mara's cerebral palsy causing difficulty wearing a tie). In January 2020 Ian Mearns spoke wearing a t-shirt (with a jacket). Both O'Mara and Mearns were criticised, but not to the extent that Brabin has been. There have been many prior instances when MPs attended a division (vote) when not properly dressed. Brabin should probably have started her speech "I apologise to the house that due to unfortunate circumstances my dress does not meet the usual sartorial standards here, but I hope you will forgive me and the sight of a bare shoulder doesn't cause distress to any honourable members.... or Boris!"

I DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT HER OUTFIT.

we pay so, so much to have them debating for us in parliament.

I care so, so little about her outfit. Jesus Christ.