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MIL hasn't contacted me about our engagement

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claragolightly · 03/02/2020 13:25

Sorry...this got long!

My boyfriend and I got engaged at Christmas, and I've not heard from my MIL-to be. I’ve been stewing over it – is this normal?

My partner told her that he was planning to propose on Christmas day. We were away, so there was a big time difference, and when she video called him on the day she was in the middle of cooking so we ended up mostly speaking to her husband (not my partner’s dad) and his son and partner. She said hi, then walked off to the kitchen, bobbing in a few times to chat about the turkey and to say she was stressed about the cooking. We didn't say we'd got engaged for this reason, plus it had only happened about 15 minutes earlier!

When he spoke to her when we got back about five days later she just said that she was really upset that he hadn't told her, that she had been really worried etc. That she'd told her husband, his son and partner that he planned to propose and that it had put a dampener on things when we didn't say anything. We didn’t tell anyone we’d got engaged until we got back. I am very close to my family, but still didn’t want to tell them until we returned.

Since then, my family have all texted my partner a lot, sent cards / gifts / generally made a huge fuss. He has made reference to the excitement from my side, how lovely it has been, how he likes feeling part of the family etc. Then said sorry there’s nothing from my side, I know my mum is excited, though.

I don’t want gifts etc, but just think a text would have been nice?! And I think it’s weird that she hasn’t contacted me AT ALL.

For background, we don't see her that much due to distance, but for the first couple of years we were together I would text her semi-regularly, just to share news about our house / send her pics of my partner next to DIY, that kind of thing. Or to acknowledge life events / say have a nice holiday etc. She would generally reply, but never asked anything. She would never initiate a chat with me.

I cooled off on the texting after she didn’t acknowledge my nana’s passing, despite it happening three days after we visited MIL and I’d discussed my nana’s illnesses with her. There have been a few other incidents that have made me a bit wary of her – but she doesn’t know I know about them, if you see what I mean. I still say happy birthday / mothers day / Christmas and send cards, and I’m always very friendly and welcoming when she does come to stay – I don’t sit in the corner in a sulk and we’ve not had words. I don't want to make things difficult for my partner, although he is aware of my feelings.

It's not like she's not a texter - she sends very long messages to my partner regularly, probably once a week if not more. And she calls with about the same frequency. He will often say "mum said thanks for the birthday card / mum said to say hi etc. She has my number, she can call or text me herself.

She is insisting we go on holiday with them in the summer, which we have had to agree to. She has told my partner I will have to drive a hire car as there are too many people to fit in one vehicle and my partner won’t drive, she keeps asking him if I’ve booked the car yet. Why can’t she ask me? She's not even asked me if I mind driving the car. In fact. she's not spoken to me about the holiday at all.

I don’t understand why she cuts me out like this.

OP posts:
PurpleDaisies · 03/02/2020 13:28

Has she said congratulations to your partner?

It’s pretty normal for in laws to make contact via their own child. My mum wouldn’t ring or text my dh.

notanotherjigsawpiece · 03/02/2020 13:28

She sounds rude. But on the plus side, I guess she’ll not be interfering in the wedding plans.

Why do you have to go on holiday with them and why can’t your fiancé do the driving?

Shoxfordian · 03/02/2020 13:32

Why are you sending her happy mothers day cards? She's not your mother. I think you're expecting a lot more involvement than she wants to give
My mil doesn't text me very much, I'm fine with it

constantlyseekinghappiness · 03/02/2020 13:35

I think YABU

Why would she ask you if you mind driving - there’s not enough room in the car, you and your partner have to arrange a car for yourselves. It’s up to you two to decide who drives. Your MiL doesn’t need to ask if you mind.

You and you partner are a team now, you’re engaged. I think YABU to expect to be treated separately. Why would she be texting you? There’s no need. She can communicate with her son on behalf of you both!

Drabarni · 03/02/2020 13:37

You are marrying your partner, why should she get in touch with you?
I think the two families sound very different, that's all.
Ditto to her not being your mother, why would you send her a mothers day card, do you have your own mother?

Drabarni · 03/02/2020 13:40

I missed the insisting bit, I repeat she is not your mother nd I'd be expecting my fiance to tell her to shuv off with her insisting.
Does he have your back or does he sit on the fence, as no use at all?
You need to stand up for what you want either with your fiance or without him.
I've been married over 30 years, mil knew boundaries right from the start, and those she didn't know she was soon told.

HmmIsThisAGoodIdea · 03/02/2020 13:43

It's just the way some families are op. It doesn't mean there are any issues to worry about or that they're bad people. Some people just don't like texting non-immediate family. I feel the same. I'm an introvert and find pleasantries like that really hard work mentally. If course I'm super pleasant in person and get on really well with my in laws but struggle really badly when it comes to messages and constantly keeping in touch. It's nothing personal and if you met me irl you wouldn't think I'm socially awkward or anything so I hope they're not offended that I'm not a big texter like your MIL to be!

Whynosnowyet · 03/02/2020 13:44

Take a massive step back op. If your dp can't refuse a family holiday for fear of upsetting her I would think long and hard about getting married.
You do not have to go /do /text about most of the above list op!!

TeaAndCake321 · 03/02/2020 13:44

I've been with my husband 15 years, married for 4, my in laws message my husband even to ask me something, meh I married him not his mother/father! My parents are the same, they will just contact me even asking my husband stuff, so it isn't that odd. I've never felt the need to message my mother in law for a chit chat, we have zero in common, apart from her son.

As for the engagement I'm not sure what you were anticipating, you seem to have built it up into a big thing that you expect others to be as excited over. Why didn't you just say you got engaged on Xmas day, it's a bit odd if you aren't actually keeping it secret to talk to them that day and not mention it. Maybe they assumed you weren't looking for a fanfare given you didn't mention it at the time?

flouncyfanny · 03/02/2020 13:54

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WilheldivaHater · 03/02/2020 13:58

A lot of it sounds like different expectations and personalities.

It drives me mad when my in laws try to involve me in conversations that they could just have with DH. The expectation to do "wife work" really bothers me.

Why would you get your MIL a mothers day card? Does your DP get one for your mum?

LouReidDododo · 03/02/2020 13:58

Don’t go on the holiday you know you will end up regretting it. It’s pushy and controlling what she is ordering you to do.

Sometimes OP you have to draw a boundary and stick to it so she knows where you both stand. My and I played this game for about four years till I put a stop to it.

On our wedding day she asked how I felt now I was an official part of her family. We’d been together ten years and had two children Confused

She’s not messaged you about the wedding because your still insignificant. She doesn’t need to message you. She has access to her son and that’s all that matters to her.

Tell your DP to go on his own.

Sceptre86 · 03/02/2020 14:02

I have been married almost 6 years. Get on well with mil and she is a loving grandma to our kids. She does not ring or text me ever. I ring her at least once a week to check in and we usually pop over on the weekend. I found it hurtful at first but am now over it. In her case she just doesn't think to. My mum on the other hand rings me every day.

CSIblonde · 03/02/2020 14:08

She doesn't want a close relationship, which could be a plus down the line as she prob won't be in your face all the time when Grandkids come qlong. But, why is she calling the shots re the holiday? You're not a child she gets to dictate to. Squash that now or she'll expect it forever more. No need to be rude, just polite but firm.

KaptenKrusty · 03/02/2020 14:08

When we told my now Husband's Mum that we had got engaged, she went quiet and then said - Phew, I thought you were going to say she was pregnant!! and she got a last "at least she's not pregnant" comment before the phone hung up - hahah WTF

That was the only time she ever spoke about it / only type of congratulations we got :( so weird!

I'd just let it go - her problem really not yours! Just enjoy your engagement :) x

Longwhiskers14 · 03/02/2020 14:14

If you search MN you'll find the vast majority of posters don't want their MIL texting them! Grin She may also be one of those rare MIL who doesn't think it's the DIL's job to make all the arrangements and keep in touch. I do think it's a bit off that she didn't extend sympathies after your nan died but maybe she thinks passing messages through your DP is enough. Seriously, be thankful she's not interfering and OTT like the majority of MILs complained about on here!

2020YearOfTheGoat · 03/02/2020 14:16

From my experience, think yourself lucky it’s this way & not overbearing - you’ll appreciate it further down the line.

Let your DF deal with her - easier for everyone.

ChocolateChipMuffin2016 · 03/02/2020 14:16

I've been with DH for 10 years and I love my MIL, but I think I have maybe had one text from her in that time and I never text her! I believe we have a good relationship, but if she wants to speak to us, congratulate us etc she communicates with DH and I communicate with my mum, DH will then 'pass on the message'. For me, that's totally normal. I could call her and I she could call me, but there's no real need! I think you're expecting too much.

Elbels · 03/02/2020 14:17

She sounds like my MIL, but the difference being it doesn't bother me in the slightest. It's just her and I have my own family who I'm far more involved eith. You also have a supportive family on your side who have celebrated with you, take that as a win!

Bluetrews25 · 03/02/2020 14:20

The holiday will turn into a nightmare, guaranteed.
Anyone over 21 is a bit big to go away with mummy and daddy....unless they want to, and unless I've read it wrong, you don't.
Is it so you will share cost of villa hire or something?
Get out of it!
Rejoice that she doesn't phone you. One day you will be grateful!

FizzyGreenWater · 03/02/2020 14:26

All this would be fine - one could reply that she clearly doesn't particularly want a close relationship with you, or right now hasn't quite got to feel comfortable enough with you to see you as 'family'. Until you got to this bit:

She is insisting we go on holiday with them in the summer, which we have had to agree to. She has told my partner I will have to drive a hire car as there are too many people to fit in one vehicle and my partner won’t drive, she keeps asking him if I’ve booked the car yet. Why can’t she ask me? She's not even asked me if I mind driving the car. In fact. she's not spoken to me about the holiday at all.

Ok, all bets are now off. She isn't shy or unsure - sounds like she has no problem laying down the law, and in the light of that I'm inclined to see her behaviour as more unacceptable. Either making it clear to you that she expects to do the communication with her son, which is kind of ok if a bit rude if she's making plans that include you - or worse, an element of starting to try and put you in your place now that you're engaged. She may just be finding it a bit of an adjustment all round, though - mentally - and be a bit wobbly about it.

What has your partner said about it, and what is he like with his mother? For example, alarm bells are ringing at her insisting that you go on holiday with them - if you don't both want to, you shouldn't be - so is he keeping her happy at your expense? I suggest you have a conversation right now with your fiance where you make it clear that it's either no insisting, or no engagement.

That's really the only thing that truly needs sorting - the nugget of it. If he's got your back, these issues will melt away, with or without some dust ups, hopefully without - when she realises that if she tries to meddle or 'insist', her son will put distance between you. But if those apron strings are still tied at all - not so good. To the extent that I would say - don't be engaged until that's the case, and certainly not married.

Perhaps start saying you don't fancy the holiday...

BackforGood · 03/02/2020 14:26

Yes, YABU.
I speak to my ds mostly, not his partner. I mean, obviously I speak to her when she is here, but I think it would be weird to message her separately about something.
My neice got engaged recently. She messaged me to tell me. I messaged back, how lovely, really excited for you etc etc. I didn't message him separately. I kind of assumed that he would be contacting his family, she would be contacting hers, and they would show each other.
I find it odd that your dp told her he was going to propose and then didn't tell her he had and that you had accepted for 5 days.
Either it is a private thing that you just wanted to be between you while you got used to it (so why tell her he was going to ? Confused)
or you want to tell people (perfectly normal) in which case you would normally tell parents that day or the next day or you specifically go and visit them to tell them the news - of facetime / Skype if that isn't practical.
No wonder she was worried.

Brokit · 03/02/2020 14:27

She isn't your MIL she's your boyfriend's mother. I wouldn't have expected my partner's mother to get in touch when we decided to get married?
I can't recollect in 40 years my DH ever contacting my parents directly or vice versa unless it was an emergency.

FizzyGreenWater · 03/02/2020 14:27

and my partner won’t drive

Wow - missed this bit!

Won't drive?

Why?!

I suggest you too announce that you won't drive.

See what happens then.

:)

FizzyGreenWater · 03/02/2020 14:29

Nicely, of course...

'Oh the car? Hang on, is that still happening? I haven't heard anything from your mother, she hasn't even asked me... Not sure I fancy it now I've thought about it, do you want to tell her to see if there's someone else in the immediate family she'd be happier sorting it out with? I'd rather just relax with you to be honest rather than be constantly driving!'