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MIL hasn't contacted me about our engagement

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claragolightly · 03/02/2020 13:25

Sorry...this got long!

My boyfriend and I got engaged at Christmas, and I've not heard from my MIL-to be. I’ve been stewing over it – is this normal?

My partner told her that he was planning to propose on Christmas day. We were away, so there was a big time difference, and when she video called him on the day she was in the middle of cooking so we ended up mostly speaking to her husband (not my partner’s dad) and his son and partner. She said hi, then walked off to the kitchen, bobbing in a few times to chat about the turkey and to say she was stressed about the cooking. We didn't say we'd got engaged for this reason, plus it had only happened about 15 minutes earlier!

When he spoke to her when we got back about five days later she just said that she was really upset that he hadn't told her, that she had been really worried etc. That she'd told her husband, his son and partner that he planned to propose and that it had put a dampener on things when we didn't say anything. We didn’t tell anyone we’d got engaged until we got back. I am very close to my family, but still didn’t want to tell them until we returned.

Since then, my family have all texted my partner a lot, sent cards / gifts / generally made a huge fuss. He has made reference to the excitement from my side, how lovely it has been, how he likes feeling part of the family etc. Then said sorry there’s nothing from my side, I know my mum is excited, though.

I don’t want gifts etc, but just think a text would have been nice?! And I think it’s weird that she hasn’t contacted me AT ALL.

For background, we don't see her that much due to distance, but for the first couple of years we were together I would text her semi-regularly, just to share news about our house / send her pics of my partner next to DIY, that kind of thing. Or to acknowledge life events / say have a nice holiday etc. She would generally reply, but never asked anything. She would never initiate a chat with me.

I cooled off on the texting after she didn’t acknowledge my nana’s passing, despite it happening three days after we visited MIL and I’d discussed my nana’s illnesses with her. There have been a few other incidents that have made me a bit wary of her – but she doesn’t know I know about them, if you see what I mean. I still say happy birthday / mothers day / Christmas and send cards, and I’m always very friendly and welcoming when she does come to stay – I don’t sit in the corner in a sulk and we’ve not had words. I don't want to make things difficult for my partner, although he is aware of my feelings.

It's not like she's not a texter - she sends very long messages to my partner regularly, probably once a week if not more. And she calls with about the same frequency. He will often say "mum said thanks for the birthday card / mum said to say hi etc. She has my number, she can call or text me herself.

She is insisting we go on holiday with them in the summer, which we have had to agree to. She has told my partner I will have to drive a hire car as there are too many people to fit in one vehicle and my partner won’t drive, she keeps asking him if I’ve booked the car yet. Why can’t she ask me? She's not even asked me if I mind driving the car. In fact. she's not spoken to me about the holiday at all.

I don’t understand why she cuts me out like this.

OP posts:
HumousWhereTheHeartIs · 03/02/2020 15:52

She should have sent a message or a card about your Nana's death. I'm not sure about the rest.

justasking111 · 03/02/2020 15:56

So many mumsnetters have complained that their MIL contacts them instead of their son, so not sure what you want. You are engaged but she really does not know you very well. Let her son deal with cards and the like rather than you. You may find that the relationship grows with time, marriage and children. She may worry about over stepping boundaries. I am very careful with my DILs not to interfere or put my foot in it.

Lweji · 03/02/2020 15:58

The engagement: I wouldn't expect to be contacted

What not even friends congratulated you? Not a single friend or family member said congratulations? Where were you living? On the moon?

FFS, by the future MIL. Sigh.

EverythingChanges321 · 03/02/2020 16:02

No way. I wouldn’t be agreeing to be her chauffeur on this holiday.
Do you really want to go on holiday with your in-laws?
You don’t have to agree to any of her requests, you know.

I don’t think it’s entirely unreasonable for her not to congratulate you on your engagement, if she’s congratulated her son. Her family might not be very chatty in that way. However, if it matters to you, I think you need to change the way you interact with her. Start setting out your expectations now rather than hoping she’ll magically guess what sort of relationship you want with her. Tell her straight, if you’re confident enough.

My DIL speaks English as a second language and isn’t confident chatting on the phone so we communicate a lot via text messaging. It gives her time to read and think about a response before posting. She keeps me informed of what they’ve been up to this way without feeling under pressure to answer the phone when she’s not expecting a call. It seems to work well and keeps us in touch with each other between visits. (Usually once a year as we live abroad.)

KatyCarrCan · 03/02/2020 16:02

I wouldn't have expected MIL to contact me. It's fairly common I think for ILs to pass messages through their child. And for their child to remain the main point of contact.

As for the engagement, she's explained why she was upset and a bit detached about it. Telling her it was planned, then not confirming it, left her worrying over Christmas that something had gone wrong. It was a bit thoughtless of both of you not to consider that she'd be waiting for an announcement that didn't come, and that would leave her wondering why it hadn't happened.

stellabelle · 03/02/2020 16:07

I've got a son in law - he and DD have been living together for 17 years and married for 13 years. He and I get along fine - when we are together it's very friendly. But I would guess that I've texted him about 4 times in all that time , and that was only when DD was sick in hospital ,or once when a storm caused a tree to fall on their house and she wasn't answering my messages . Different families - different communications. You need to step back and don't expect MIL to be contacting you .

WhatsTheLatest · 03/02/2020 16:10

She is setting her stall out, you have to respect her for that. However it means YOU dont have to bother with her either. You certainly dont have to drive on holiday if you dont want to! Take a stand now and tell him to tell her to contact you directly, or you will be forever told second hand by your DP what is expected from you.

stellabelle · 03/02/2020 16:10

I agree with PP about the engagement - he told his mother that he was going to propose at Christmas, then you both spoke to her and didn't tell her that you were engaged. No wonder she was not thrilled about it - you kept it from her because you wanted to share that news with your own family first. Not very nice !

womaninblue · 03/02/2020 16:16

I'm in my 50s. I have nieces and nephews who are getting engaged and expecting presents and sending me photos of rings and so on and it just makes me laugh on a good day and shudder on a bad one.

I'm from a generation of women who consciously rejected all that sexist nonsense and frankly I think of those who are invested in it as embarrassingly conventional. As a feminist I have no idea what to say to any young woman who chooses to play this game. I think the whole engagement thing is bizarre and the ring-flashing really demeaning. He's bought you with a ring? Maybe your MIL feels the way I do. Maybe her silence is better than the eye-rolling I'm doing now.

Iamacrapmom · 03/02/2020 16:19

She sounds like she doesn't like you I'm afraid not all MIL are the same I would ask your fiancée to get her to ring you and speak about the holiday if she doesn't well then I would be saying I'm not going.

TeaForTara · 03/02/2020 16:28

The lack of contact wouldn't bother me. My MIL didn't contact me after we got engaged and I don't think she contacted me directly after a significant bereavement I suffered either. I don't remember exactly but I suspect DH relayed her sympathy. I like her and get on well with her but we don't speak directly other than when we see each other.

The holiday is another matter. It's a massive red flag that you have "had to" agree to it, and then that she dictates that you will be doing the driving and responsible for hiring the car. Do you both actually want to go? If not, why have you agreed to it? Before your DP becomes your DH you need to be sure that he has got your back and you are his number one priority. If he'd rather upset you than upset his DM, don't marry him. It won't end well.

BettyAll1 · 03/02/2020 16:30

What you crave from your MIL, many people would find over bearing. My in laws communicate to us as a couple via my husband and my parents communicate through me. I’m very thankful of that and wouldn’t want it any other way.

IdleLiz · 03/02/2020 16:33

She is insisting we go on holiday with them in the summer, which we have had to agree to.

More fool you. I can see a lifetime of things you are forced to do because your DP won't say no.
Good luck.

BrokenWing · 03/02/2020 16:40

25+ years together and my parents have never contacted dh directly.

My inlaws have never contacted me directly. Same with my siblings and their spouses/partners.

It is fairly normal/common, nothing to worry about or read things into.

Lweji · 03/02/2020 16:45

No contact whatsoever ever is also on the other extreme, and probably very rare.

OP, are you sure your MIL hasn't sent her condolences about your nana through your now fiancé and he forgot to tell you?

What would she congratulate you for? "Congratulations, you were lucky enough that my son asked you to marry him" Hmm
She should be thanking you for saying yes, if anything. Wink
Her congratulations should be to her son for having got a yes from you.

Aquamarine1029 · 03/02/2020 16:46

Stop fretting about a relationship that's never going to happen. Your MIL doesn't want to be close to you, that much is clear. Now you need to set your own boundaries as to what intrusion and demands you're willing to tolerate. As for the holiday? Fuck that. Cancel and go on your own holiday.

Moreisnnogedag · 03/02/2020 16:59

she is insisting

Is she? Has she spoken to you or is this just your DH saying that?

It sounds like just different expectations. My own DM will ask me to ask my DH something. My DH will ask me to ask my parents something. They live with us. Sigh.

katzenellenbogen · 03/02/2020 17:07

She is insisting we go on holiday with them in the summer, which we have had to agree to.

You haven't had to agree to this. You have chosen to agree to it.

Besidesthepoint · 03/02/2020 17:31

I like my MIL quite well but I wouldn't go on holiday with her (again) and I find it pretty normal that she discusses stuff with her own son instead of me. I also don't do mothers day, she's not my mother. I don't text a pic of the new carpet or whatever. I just visit every few (2-3) weeks, or collect her if she wants to ho to our place, and take her out to lunch without DH once in a while. That's enough for us. Too much familiarity can actually make the relationship worse, so I try to stay positive and interested. That's it.

How long is this holiday? Can you get out of (part of) it?

NameChangeNugget · 03/02/2020 17:38

YABU

thickwoollytights · 03/02/2020 18:49

She is insisting we go on holiday with them in the summer, which we have had to agree to. She has told my partner I will have to drive a hire car as there are too many people to fit in one vehicle and my partner won’t drive, she keeps asking him if I’ve booked the car yet. Why can’t she ask me? She's not even asked me if I mind driving the car. In fact. she's not spoken to me about the holiday at all.

You don't have a MIL problem

You have a fiancé problem

I wouldn't marry your bloke for a million £

Urkiddingright · 03/02/2020 18:53

I’m married but my IL’s don’t contact me, they contact DH and my Mum contacts me rather than DH. I think that’s normal.

HannyLove · 03/02/2020 19:01

Not that it is the same for every MIL but I've noticed with mine there seems to be a bit of a competitive vibe - and not from me. I told my more mature friend at work this & she said "well you are taking her son away". My Mam has never been like that with either of my SILs, I think sometimes there's just a lot to be said for a mother's relationship with her son. I wouldn't take it personally (it is annoying) but it may just be that there is a little bit of jealousy there, especially if you are both close to your family. Congratulations, don't let anyone spoil your moment x.

Andylion · 03/02/2020 19:02

She is insisting we go on holiday with them in the summer, which we have had to agree to. She has told my partner I will have to drive a hire car as there are too many people to fit in one vehicle and my partner won’t drive, she keeps asking him if I’ve booked the car yet. Why can’t she ask me? She's not even asked me if I mind driving the car. In fact. she's not spoken to me about the holiday at all.

I agree with other posters, This is a bigger problem.

Alsohuman · 03/02/2020 19:18

She is insisting we go on holiday with them in the summer, which we have had to agree to

And yet she hasn’t spoken to you about it, so you only have your fiancé’s word that she’s insisting. She may have issued a casual invitation.

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