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To lie about GCSE grade to get on to course?

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hellohh · 01/02/2020 08:37

I have GCSE maths at grade C and want to re-do maths to get on to a grad scheme. I can't afford to pay for a course at the moment.

I know you can get funding if you don't have a maths GCSE at grade C. So I was wondering if colleges check if you've already done GCSE and what grade you got.

Btw, my maths is rusty so I would love do to it again.

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hellohh · 01/02/2020 08:38

I need GCSE maths at grade B+

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CakeandCustard28 · 01/02/2020 08:42

I wouldn’t lie. They can ask to see proof with your certificates.

Strugglingtoquit · 01/02/2020 08:44

You’re not eligible for the funding, so why exactly do you feel entitled to it?

I would hope that they do check before awarding funding!

TreeClimbingCat · 01/02/2020 08:50

I would think you have to provide a copy of your GCSE certificate to prove your maths grade otherwise other people with a grade C could do the same thing.

You need to either resit your maths or contact the grad scheme and tell them the year you took your maths and whether it still matters that you didn't get a B or above.

GreenTulips · 01/02/2020 08:51

How old are you?

Some are avail label online so they can check. Some aren’t.

BrokenWing · 01/02/2020 08:52

It's likely they will ask to see your gcse certificate. Possibly after you have taken up a place someone else is actually entitled to, registered agreeing to the entry requirements and the course has started which would then cause you massive problems.

hellohh · 01/02/2020 08:54

I'm late 20's

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hellohh · 01/02/2020 08:54

Is there a way to do GCSE maths on the cheap?

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cuckooken · 01/02/2020 08:55

Why do you think you should get this for free?

Medievalist · 01/02/2020 08:56

Of course you shouldn't lie about it Hmm

ponyprincess · 01/02/2020 08:56

YABU.Firstly they are likely to check/ask for proof. Secondly if you lie and get it you are taking this away from someone who honestly earned the required marks, and this is just wrong

Namechangers87171717 · 01/02/2020 08:56

Technically you’d be committing fraud, by false representation. As you’d be committing fraud ( false info about your grade being lower than it is) to make a financial gain for yourself ( getting funding your not entitled too)

Herja · 01/02/2020 08:58

Mine was sort of the opposite, as I had to prove to the college that I had a c or above, but yes, it was checked. I had to produce my GCSE certificates to be given the place. I'd assume it works the other way too.

forestdweller11 · 01/02/2020 08:58

Your local adult education department should be able to help. And it should be free.

PennyGold · 01/02/2020 08:59

They'll 100% ask to see the certificates. I work in a similar environment and we don't allow a candidate to start until we see passport etc (which includes the GCSE certificates). There's a few people who say they've 'lost' theirs but we ask them to get a copy from their college/ sixth form, and if they can't provide it we terminate the contract.
Just redo your maths GCSE.

SeasonallySnowyPeasant · 01/02/2020 09:00

YABU. You couldn’t it cheaply by studying independently using revision guides & online resources, then just paying the exam fee.

frogsbreath · 01/02/2020 09:00

Does it have to be GCSE? Functional skills maths is free and level 2 is equivalent to a higher GCSE pass. Check out your local
Area provision on community learning.

LynetteScavo · 01/02/2020 09:02

You could work through a GCSE revision book, and book yourself into an exam.

Two people I work with have done just the exam with no tutoring so that must be possible.

You could get a private tutor to give you a few pointers before the exam? Or if you can't afford that there will be explanation on line. That actually might be the way forward as people retaking their GCSE will be taking the foundation paper and you'll need to take the higher.

Pilot12 · 01/02/2020 09:03

Some colleges allow you to pay in instalments, have you looked?

No you can't lie, they'll want to see your GCSE certificate.

DisplayPurposesOnly · 01/02/2020 09:03

Yes, they will check - online and probably ask to see your certificate.

Have you asked the college about payment by instalments for the fees? (If that would help.) Would family and friends chip in, in lieu of birthday & Christmas presents?

Why don't you ask the grad scheme if they allow a lower grade in some circumstances (and if so, what those circumstances are, if they apply to you).

pilates · 01/02/2020 09:03

No I wouldn’t lie. Would you need to do the new curriculum GCSE maths? If so, be warned it’s a lot harder. B+ I think would be a 6 🤔

NachoNachoMan · 01/02/2020 09:03

Do you have all of the rest of the criteria for the grad scheme? They may be willing to accept you if everything else is as it should be.

Even if you do manage to the GCSE course without anyone realising, can you be certain you'll manage to achieve a B grade?

Also, will you definitely be accepted onto the scheme once/if you get a B in maths? Is it worth committing fraud if theres no certainty you'll be accepted?

Lastly... the new GCSEs are graded 1-9 (lowest - highest). You need to find out what equivalent numerical grade they want, I'm guessing everyone applying at the moment has old type GCSEs.

LynetteScavo · 01/02/2020 09:06

If you don't have a GCSE certificate because didn't take it they can't see it.

Check on line? Really? Where is this GCSE data base?

DisplayPurposesOnly · 01/02/2020 09:06

Your local adult education department should be able to help. And it should be free.

They have to follow the same funding rules as colleges. It's free if you don't have level 2/GCSE already, otherwise you have to pay.

PotteringAlong · 01/02/2020 09:07

Of course they check! They will want to see your certificates.

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