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Aibu tombe scared to fly to Heathrow because of coronavirus?

113 replies

moumoute · 27/01/2020 09:53

I booked my short getaway to London a while ago and never get to travel...but I'm scared to catch the virus and bring it home. Aibu?

OP posts:
crustycrab · 28/01/2020 10:05

Shatnerswig it's quite clear that the OP feels stuck in Sweden and is desperately wishing she was somewhere else away from her DH. Isolated and with a young child and what sounds like a very damaged and distant relationship.

Her 2017 thread she was living in Norway and had lived in London previously.

Living in Sweden is not "travelling". But yeah, take the piss out of her Hmm

OP YABU - you won't catch the virus at Heathrow. Enjoy your trip

AngelsSins · 28/01/2020 10:08

for God sake, the press have a lot to answer for, every 5 years or so they put the fear of god in people about some virus or another, convincing us that half the planet will be wiped out. So irresponsible.

BobbyBlueCat · 28/01/2020 10:13

YABVU

Basecamp65 · 28/01/2020 10:18

How do you know it is not already in Sweden?

Apirateslifeforme · 28/01/2020 10:20

Go on holiday, enjoy, dont worry about the Corona virus, it's not In this country yet.

Just make sure you can protect yourself from the flu. That would be my biggest concern.

I go over the top with my preparedness (thanks OCD!) But I tend to travel with dettol wipes, anti bacterial gel and wash my hands as often as possible. I wont bore you with my rituals for anything else, but also avoid touching your face, chewing on your fingernails.

You'll be fine.

mumwon · 28/01/2020 10:24

Check that your cotton wool, wipes, soap etc are not made in China (sarcasm alert)actually people don't get how international & connected our world is - but I think China is working to isolate the virus as effectively as any country could

eenymeenyminyme · 28/01/2020 10:27

There's as much chance of it being in Sweden as being in the UK, surely?

Lweji · 28/01/2020 11:39

for God sake, the press have a lot to answer for, every 5 years or so they put the fear of god in people about some virus or another, convincing us that half the planet will be wiped out. So irresponsible.

Just as irresponsible as comments like this.
Where did you ever get the "half will be wiped out" claim?

It's a concern. It's a new form of a well known virus that can kill. It's spreading.
Governments should be alert. Health Services should be prepared. People should take basic precautions and be alert to developments.

Don't panic, but also don't dismiss it. Both attitudes are wrong and are dangerous.

Lweji · 28/01/2020 11:44

It causes a severe respiratory disease.
This can easily develop into pneumonia, which requires specialised care, often in hospital.
Manageable if the number of patients is low, but imagine flu proportions.

Lweji · 28/01/2020 11:52

Corona virus is nothing new. I remember nursing kids with it back in 2010

Unless they had a common cold, please explain what seemingly unreported outbreak was this.

rrg1 · 28/01/2020 12:03

This Story is Getting Massive Hype
No one can deny the incredible hype that this story is getting. But, why?

Nearly every major news outlet is front-paging the news about the virus. NBC warns of the rising death toll, CNN frightens us with “diving” stocks due to coronavirus fears (the DOW dropped by 0.6% while other stocks like Bowing grew by 1.7%), the Drudge Report sounds the alarm on the spreading outbreak triggering the quarantine of 56 million people, but China’s state run communist newspaper, the People’s Daily, reports only 41 total deaths from coronavirus and 34 cured and released, with the total number of confirmed cases to date at 1287.

Yet, every new development is serious front page news. CNBC released an updating map of those affected by the virus. In China, it looks like they are absolutely swamped with illness, however, to say that the true number of cases is minuscule compared with China’s population of 1.4 billion would be the world’s greatest understatement of the century.

Is the media simply reporting justifiably on a virus that could potentially affect millions of people, or do they have ulterior motives?

Lweji · 28/01/2020 12:15

Is the media simply reporting justifiably on a virus that could potentially affect millions of people, or do they have ulterior motives?

The media get excited about it because it could potentially affect millions, yes.
Plus the Chinese government has quarantined entire towns, so it will affect commerce.

Ulterior motives are more applicable to celebrity bashing. Grin

A quick survey of online first pages shows that the media aren't THAT bothered about the new coronavirus.
In fact, Nicholas Parsons has just got bigger headlines. Sad

Scrumbleton · 28/01/2020 19:18

YABU - wise up!

anothernamejeeves · 28/01/2020 22:17

@Lweji not an outbreak corona virus is always around

Lweji · 28/01/2020 22:27

@anothernamejeeves

You really need to learn more about coronaviruses. There's the run of the mill coronavirus and, occasionally, an unusual lineage appears, with a much higher death rate.
There's a reason why the WHO is worried, and it's not because this version causes a cold like illness. It's not media hype. Researchers are publishing like mad, health agencies rushed to sequence and design detection methods. The WHO and CDC, etc and running updates. Serious medical journals are publishing reviews and updates regularly.

There was nothing like this in the world of coronavirus in 2010.

If you don't understand the difference, educate yourself.

anothernamejeeves · 29/01/2020 05:13

Alright @Lweji order yourself a hazmat suit and walk round with a sandwich board saying the end of the world is nigh

TheClaws · 29/01/2020 05:32

anothernamejeeves What Lweji is telling you is that there is a family of coronaviruses. The common cold is a type of coronavirus. Anti-vaxxers are finding patents for coronaviruses and are and saying, “Look! Proof! Conspiracy!” But, no. Coronaviruses have been patented and used for all kind of reasons, none of them sinister.

This latest coronavirus - a wild strain - is very different from previous coronaviruses in terms of symptoms. You haven’t “seen it before”.

Darkstar4855 · 29/01/2020 06:10

Flu kills 800 people a year in the UK. Coronavirus has killed 0 here, and not even 800 in total.

YABU.

Stronger76 · 29/01/2020 06:11

The number of people in Britain who died from flu last year was around 600. When the numbers of Chinese folk dying of corona virus exceed 12,000 (when you multiply up by the difference between populations) then I'll start to worry. Op you are being ridiculous.

anothernamejeeves · 29/01/2020 07:33

www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2013/02/third-novel-coronavirus-infection-reported-uk-family

It has

It wasn't a pandemic. Far from it. Stop the scaremongering

Weedsnseeds1 · 29/01/2020 07:47

I flew from T4 on Saturday. I don't have Corona virus ( yet). I do have several mosquito bites though, so just waiting for the Dengue Fever to kick in...

Lweji · 29/01/2020 07:53

Flu kills 800 people a year in the UK. Coronavirus has killed 0 here, and not even 800 in total.

Just give it time.
Current containment measures will probably work, as they did for SARS, but the death rate for this new one is higher than for the flu.

Btw, even strains of flu have different death rates.

Quite frankly, people should learn a bit about this stuff before making inane statements.

ShatnersWig · 29/01/2020 07:56

@crustycrab You spectacularly miss my point. How can the OP claim to have been living in Sweden for four years as of March 2019 when two years previously she was living in (not visiting) London AND Norway in January 2017?

AnguaResurgam · 29/01/2020 08:13

"When the numbers of Chinese folk dying of corona virus exceed 12,000 (when you multiply up by the difference between populations) then I'll start to worry. Op you are being ridiculous."

If the death rate continues to double daily (which it has done for the last 3 days) then that's less than a week away

Lweji · 29/01/2020 08:49

If the death rate continues to double daily (which it has done for the last 3 days) then that's less than a week away

The death rate hasn't doubled, to be precise.
The number of sick has.
And the number of dead.
The rate hasn't changed much, because it's one divided by the other.

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