Coronavirus are you worried?

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So this virus has infected 600+ already and seems to be picking up pace. It’ll be in the UK any day, if it’s not already. AIBU to think this is going to have a big fallout and are you concerned?

amp.theguardian.com/science/live/2020/jan/23/coronavirus-china-virus-flu-scotland-testing-wuhan-live-news-updates

With the Express I veer towards assuming "muddyingthewaters" reporting.

They are seldom utterly fake, just misleading headlines and junk writing underneath.

Sorry, the whole site is click bait shite

A vaccine? This soon? It would be good, certainly, but can it be true?

I have impression that influenza is contagious for a day or so before active illness starts, too.

On the ITV or BBC on Friday they said about a years lead time to make a vaccine.

Drs etc are probably just using anti viral.

Think about Ebola....how old is that? And where I'd that vaccine.....?

im more annoyed than anything, ground zero is apparently wuhan wet market, which is where animals are slaughtered into the street and arent refrigerated and the pork shortage has lead to eating more and more exotic animals like bats, koalas etc,. first gutter oil, bungee jumping pigs, now this??? When is that country going to introduce some FDA type regulations or basic animal welfare laws.

I'm with you calpol, that pig thing was horrendous

ive seen videos on my timeline of live animal consumption aswell, 😔😱what do people expect if you live in a culture that eats anything that moves? im surprised its taken this long for a plague to break out, SARS didn't teach much apparently.

fuckin Koalas!!!, they carry chlamydia, Ebola came from bats, the stupidity is annoying me so. much!!!

Calpol absolutely was just discussing this with my sis and DS 2 who was asking why these outbreaks always seem to come from China, they eat anything wild animals with God knows what diseases and appear from a Western perspective to have no animal welfare whatsoever.
That video of someone dipping live mice into a sauce just makes me furious.

Please can we stop generalising about what people in China do? :/

With regard to the vaccine controlling symptoms as I understand it for most people the symptoms are fairly mild.
So the young fit medical staff who have had the vaccine trial and have their symptoms relatively well controlled may not be getting any benefit from the vaccine

Like a PP, my big concern is that large numbers of Chinese people do not seen to be learning any lessons about the idiocy of eating (often endangered) wildlife. China, please just stop these awful markets! They are cruel, they are dirty, they stink, they endanger wildlife, they spread gross diseases and I can't believe that the meat even tastes nice.

Honestly, Westerners don’t seem to know where their meat comes from (or what is actually is). They just like to buy it in little shiny red packets at the supermarket and think no more of it. Or am I just generalising?

Animal welfare can be improved but normal people in China do not eat exotic animals. You’re generalising.

Yes. Solely because of the quarantine.........I'm not particularly following it in the media though. Whatever will be will be and all that.

They say 2000 are infected with a few hundred critical and 56 deaths. This is 2.8% deaths, the same percentage as when the outbreak started. I’m annoyed by the selfish (even evil if people die because of what she did?) woman who bragged she had a fever and escaped China and travelled from Paris to Lyon, she’s been treated, France now has people with it. I would hope most people will not act so cruelly. But the fact is, with an infectious period of 14 days, people could have carried it out of China weeks before the first illness was discovered, so media throwing a blame game is non constructive and pointless. These viruses jump from animal to human under, it seems unregulated conditions. So yes this should be addressed but lets put it in context:

Generally if a virus spreads really easily (ie airborne cold flu) it has low mortality rates, if it is hard to spread (bodily fluid exchange eg blood ie ebola, aids) it has high mortality rates.

Rabies, one of oldest known infectious diseases is nearly 100% fatal, killing 10,000s globally.
Smallpox, eradicated in 1980, if the variola virus were released accidentally could cause 30% of infected to die (some countries have retained stockpile of vaccines in case) and
Haemorrhagic fever – eg ebola -25% to 90% mortality.

With flu & at the moment, the coronavirus, we have high rates of illness but low rates of death in otherwise healthy people. Seasonal flu kills 291,000 to 646,000 people worldwide each year (about 1% mortality rate)- so to those who spread diseases –I have seen over the years people sneezing all over everyone in queues and on buses, disgusting and deadly if they had one of the above infectious diseases. We simply need a Tony Hancock sketch to tell these people the basics of how to act (coughs & sneezes…).

Elera2 “tell these people the basics of how to act” ? What a horrifying thing to write.

Excuse me at no point did i saw all Chinese people do it, but weve all seen enough video footage to know a sizeable proportion do, in order to stop pandemics we need to have honest conversations, im aware many Chinese people condemn these markets. its like the Gutter oil Scandal aswell, there needs to be FDA type laws there its scandalous in 2020 it doesn't.

plus from. an equality point of view its usual the most poor possibly who use the markets maybe? government need to step up.

I'm worried yes. I've had to switch from Corona to Budweiser and cancel the pop man.

@calpolatdawn
It's normal for people to use wet markets, but the type of product being sold in Wuhan (exotic animals) would be very expensive so your equality argument is mistaken. Also a few excerpts of video footage is not representative of what an entire population of 1.3 billion does.
How do you know what a sizeable proportion of the population does or does not do?

Deplorable butchery standards & terrible treatment of animals is common the world over.

bush meat is a very important source of protein (and iron) in some of the world's poorest communities (think depths of DRC).

Apparently they are trying to test a "vaccine" here. It doesn't work by stopping you from catching the disease but instead uses some sort of genetic manipulation to make your body fight it...as apparently we aren't able to fight it otherwise. Sounds like reverse of bio warfare...or sciene fiction.

instead uses some sort of genetic manipulation to make your body fight it...as apparently we aren't able to fight it otherwise

The patient in Nepal has recovered and left hospital, as have 5 of the patients in Japan. Plus the US have said at least a couple of their patients are recovering so it's just not true to say that it's not possible for anyone to fight it.