I’ve just heard

[TheSheepofWallSt]

CHESTER DRAWERS in the wild!

From a person I did not expect to hear it from...

WIBU to have thought that it was a myth?!

I've just read two 'shouldn't of';
earlier on I read a long opening post in which five paragraphs started with, 'So'.

What is the matter with these people? You'd think, if they read Mumsnet, they would know how ungrammatical they are being.

It's never too late to learn.

I think people have always got things wrong though. It’s just that thirty years ago, once they were adults, the vast majority of the population never wrote anything so their poor literacy was not apparent.

Think about it; we didn’t have Facebook or texting or social media. My mum never wrote anything except her shopping list and her Christmas cards. My Gran was basically illiterate and no one ever noticed.

Think about it; we didn’t have Facebook or texting or social media. My mum never wrote anything except her shopping list and her Christmas cards. My Gran was basically illiterate and no one ever noticed.

I also think the general public has a fairly sophisticated oral vocabulary due to a lot of access to media - television, radio, internet, social media. They have a broader range of words and expressions in their heads than people might have done 30 years ago. They want to write how they speak but may never have seen the expression in print and have only heard it and genuinely don't know how to write it.

Apostrophes. Apostrophes everywhere.

It’s - instead of its when something belongs to ‘it’

Banana’s for the plural - or any other word ending in a vowel sound (umbrella’s, avocado’s...)

I refused to go in a pub once because they had a sign on the door saying “Family’s welcome”.

Arrghhh

Bluerussian - I don't think you should be commenting on the correct usage of grammar

I think people have always got things wrong though. It’s just that thirty years ago, once they were adults, the vast majority of the population never wrote anything so their poor literacy was not apparent.

People used to write letters though.

I agree the audience of the letters was much smaller than social media and people probably thought more about what they were going to write when putting pen to paper, rather than on a keyboard.

@orangejuicer, I can't see anything wrong with what @Bluerussian wrote.

Writing letters was a bit of a middle class educated thing though. I wrote letters to my parents from uni in the eighties and they hardly wrote back and when they did their letters weren’t very good.

And my aforementioned gran “wrote” to her sisters regularly but she basically dictated them to my grandad. I think lots of people had help with their letters.

And yes to what hel is saying about people hearing stuff but never seeing it written down. Basically the opposite of me as a working class teen 40 years ago who read everything she could get her hands on, but never heard educated conversation. I had this big vocabulary but didn’t know how to pronounce anything. Snidey folk had a field day with that. In a way not dissimilar to the tone of this thread.

I love explanation marks.

I've been tempted to tell kids that everytime they use of instead of have a kitten dies...

My mum says goodle, instead of google and she is a terrible ‘h’ dropper. My dh seems to think a hearse is actually called a hearst. The worst, for me, has to be hospical though. I’ve been heard shouting ‘hospital, hospital’ at the tv when someone keeps saying it in an interview. Thankfully, no one I actually know, says it as I don’t think I could cope. Both my older sister and I are pedants to the core.

Pedant that I am, I’ve now spotted a misplaced comma in my own post and it’s driving me mad that I can’t edit it.

Earlier this week, I needed to go to the capital for a meeting. On the way there, I overheard many things.

What struck me was that nearly every sentence contained the word literally.

On the tube, there was a woman sitting next to me and the woman opposite her was talking to her. Everything she said included "and I was like". I moved to a different seat after the 12th "I was like". She said literally a few times too.

When I got there, the person I was meeting said "Perfect!" a few times.

'Self defecating'

Also arf at the condescending tumble dryer!

I had to ditch a boyfriend who insisted that the word worry was both spelled and pronounced "werry."

I hate to be mean, but someone up thread, I'm not going to mention names, posted about a work colleague's awful grammar and went on to say 'I was sat there hoping no one would think I spoke like that' - I'm paraphrasing a bit as I can't remember the exact wording; the important part is the word 'sat'.

I hear this all the time now: 'I was sat', I was stood'. Is this a is regional thing?

@pigsDOfly instead of 'sitting' or 'standing'? I'd say 'sat' or 'stood' informally?

Redrec it was the 'they are being' at the end if the sentence.

I was possibly being a bit over pedantic but it wasn't meant in an unkind way.

Ha typo. Classic!

Taddda Yes, a lot of people seem to. It's something that I've only noticed over the last few years, which is why I asked if it's regional.

@pigsDOfly I don't think its regional, just informal -

@pigsDOfly (posted without finishing!) Ever evolving speech is shortening sentences...'I was sitting there' as opposed to 'I sat there'...grammatically correct? You wouldn't get marked positively on an essay for it, but in conversational/informal speech (or forum talk) pretty standard- (smiley face)

@orangejuicer, I didn't think you were being unkind, I was genuinely puzzled about what was wrong with it. Still looks right to me!

One that started cropping up in undergraduate essays a few years ago and is now becoming almost standard is the inability to distinguish between "who" and "whom". More commonly using "whom" in a subject position than the other way round.

"The general whom was leading the attack"

Taddda I'm not sure that it's standard.

I only see it on here and hear it on television programmes. I don't know anyone in RL who uses it in speech or when texting.