Laurence Fox is an ignorant, spoilt brat.

[longwayoff]

What is wrong with this fool? Apparently in James Delingpole's podcast, heavy sigh, he criticises Sam Mendes for featuring a Sikh soldier in WW1 film. Ever heard of the British Empire, Laurence? How many Indians died for Britain? AIBU to say LF is being deliberately divisive and provocative and evidently doing his own publicity?

This thread has gone completely and utterly weird.

Of course the UK didn't withstand the Axis all on its own. I see there has been lots of googling. I'll join the fray with a wikipedia timeline of declarations of war. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declarations_of_war_during_World_War_II

You've only made it about a specific battle, and then demanded more specific terms as your points were dissected.

Its called moving the goal posts.

No you asked which countries fought the Germans, your own previous example of another country that did was Greece, who had no pilots or airforce in the BoB

For the 100000th time
Which countries, not men, fought Germany in the BofB

The Commonwealth supported the UK throughout the war with resources but as said tour obsession with the term "massive" is because all of your other claims have been disproven.

Massive is an important point

Britain did not stand alone and your desperation to change the terms of the debate is laughable.

Britain as a country was alone when it fought Germany in the BofB
As I have repeatedly said. This does not mean that other nationalities of men did not fight in RAF

There are many more, and all for different reasons, but for some reason the fact that white brits didn't win the war single handed comes as an insult.

What a truly revolting and disingenuous accusation to make in a debate

Flaxmeadow Fri 24-Jan-20 11:10:19
The BoB was a British victory. There were no allied forces fighting at that time, apart from I think in Greece. Britain was pretty much alone.

So, I think we've answered that one by now, haven't we?

But you know, if you're worried, you could add a grid-reference to your ever-narrowing question...

You've only made it about a specific battle, and then demanded more specific terms as your points were dissected

So what? And I wasnt the first to mention it

And so, because others pointed out that your statements regarding it were incorrect you've changed the goal posts each time desperately trying to prove you are right.

Your statements are repeated back at you, and even then you change your terms.

Funny, sad and vacuous at the same time,

You aren't and are a supporter of a culture which relies on this kind of fudging, just like LF

You've even been given specific examples, Canada amd Australia had squadrons.

None of the accusations are disingenuous.

You are.

As of 1939 Australia didn't have a force that could engage overseas, only a home defence militia. This obviously had to change and so the 2nd AIF was raised.
Some of those who signed up in the air force in the early days were sent to Canada for training and thence to Britain. I expect they were the Bob lot. Later in the war there were many others. Australians helped cause the atrocity at Dresden for example, although some tried to prevent it.

So, I think we've answered that one by now, haven't we

What part of it do you disagree with and why?

The idea that multiculturalism started a few decades after the great war is laughable for a start

Those trying to frame imperial subjugation as "multiculturalism" need their heads read.

And you're completely wrong.

It took me about thirty seconds to find this (hadn't bothered before, more interesting material to share).

No. 1 Squadron of the Royal Canadian Air Force (now 401 Tactical Fighter Squadron) fought the Germans in the Battle of Britain. It was a Canadian military unit, composed largely of Canadians, sent to the UK by the Canadian government, after Canada declared war on Germany on 9 Sep 1939.

See:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/401_Tactical_Fighter_Squadron

And also: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-British_personnel_in_the_RAF_during_the_Battle_of_Britain#Canada
No. 1 became the first RCAF unit to engage enemy aircraft in battle when it met a formation of German bombers over southern England on 26 August 1940, claiming three kills and four damaged, with the loss of one pilot and one aircraft. By mid-October the squadron had claimed 31 enemy aircraft destroyed and 43 probables or damaged for the loss of 16 aircraft and three pilots.

(We'll leave aside No 1 Squadron RCAF's embarrassing incident 2 days before contact with the Germans, when it inadvertently shot down a British bomber.)

Now would be a good time to come up with that specific grid-reference – which was obviously what you were asking about all along and all other information doesn't count.

Or you could try: "Look over there! A fish."

The Austrilian RAAF served in the first world war so the comment about them not having a defence force is bunkum.

A flying boat squadron was based in Britain at the time of the BoB in costal command service.

Next.

BTW, malylis, I do realise you have already said variations on this same thing, about the RCAF squadron flying under its own colours, four times to the willfully blind poster...

Oh and LF and all who support him are still idiots.

Constantly complaining that they arent allowed to say stuff and that its not common sense. You know who used to use the appeal to common sense? Those who were upset you couldn't call people the N word anymore, or other variations.

This thread has made me determined to read up on history a little more.

My own great grandad was killed on the Lancastria in WW2 and I know very little about that.

Oh goodness, IhateBoswell. Yes, of course, the news about the Lancastria was censored – initially only for a short time (according to Churchill), and then it dragged on.

Shall we really put the cat amongst the pigeons?

The BoB wasn't as important as Brits like to make out.

By the end of summer 1940 the German High command were formulating plans for invading Russia in 2014, Operation Sea Lion never went really into any action and was only one of many plans proposed and not implemented. The Germans never dedicated the full force of the Luftwaffe at us as they would have done if planning an invasion. If they really had wanted to invade they would have done it in June 1940.

The BoB whilst a victory, wasn't the turning point in the war we like to think it was. The invasion of Russia was that.

2014 ? 1941!

i do find this hard though.as there had been a few idiotic 'woke' talkings so people now jump on that band wagon.but its now got to the stage where we are dismissing any RIGHTFUL calling out of awful behavior and saying its woke.so the racist and misogynists etc are using this as a platform to carry on their vile talk

@1forsorrow Thank you for sharing that. It's good that we can find out about other wartime experiences. There are so many stories that need to be heard and from all over the world. The stories I know are from Nazi occupied Eastern Europe and the concentration camps and of course this country.

I don't get why it matters so much whether Britain stood alone. It was a world war, by definition that means that the whole world was involved.

Yeah you're right Marylis, it also wasnt even that close, and the German's couldnt have invaded anyway without the royal navy battering them. They had river barges as landing craft..

Actually I’ll bite @Flaxmeadow

The official belligerents in Battle of Britain were

UK
Canada (declared the war on Germany formally via act of Parliament on 10 sept 1939) and provided Air Force support)

V

Germany
Italy (Apparently as a result Italian citizens in Britain were interned as a result)

Happy now?

Of course @Patroclus but if they had wiped out our air power which would have been possible, sea power wouldn't have been enough.

We like to think as Brits of the standing alone myth to boost our national psyche and ego. Not true, and it wasn't the decisive factor in the war anyway.