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To think most family meals are low enough in caloroes and the diet industry is not necessary?

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ElderAve · 18/01/2020 11:55

Obviously not if you're going to deep fry everything but we know that. A standard family menu at home.

A grab and go breakfast of cereal, porridge, toast, eggs or fruit and yogurt will be no more than 400 calories.

A sandwich lunch will be about 4/500 calories

A home cooked dinner based around lean protein, some carbs and veg will be about 500 provided you go easy on the oil and butter . Even an M&S beef lasagne is only 620

So, 3 meals a day = 1500 calories max. We don't need special products or cookery books.

We do need to stop with all the junk we eat and drink between meals. But we have to do that whether we foĺlow a diet book or buy diet products or not.

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noblegiraffe · 18/01/2020 17:11

What happens to the rest of the potato?

NorthEndGal · 18/01/2020 17:12

Usually it's not the meals, it's the portion size, and the lack of daily exercise

Rastamousehat · 18/01/2020 17:12

30g of cereal means nothing to most people but show a small picture of 30g in a bowl and it will give people a clearer idea. What we eat should be secondary and the primary message should be about how much.

I'm sure some manufacturers do do this but often use very small bowls or plates. I've tried before putting a sample portion of cereal in a standard size bowl and a) it's nothing like as full as their pic and b) probably only needs half the milk they suggest adding unless you like mush.

veryvery · 18/01/2020 17:14

What happens to the rest of the potato?

Rest of the family eat it! We freeze any extra portions too. I have lots of lunches that I freeze, saved over from my smaller dinner portions. Nothing nicer than a hot lunch on a cold day! 🙂

MimiLaRue · 18/01/2020 17:14

Has anything sounded sadder than a ‘single potato wedge’?

Half a single potato wedge? Grin

Newuser123123 · 18/01/2020 17:16

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/15/age-of-obesity-shaming-overweight-people

I remember reading this article last summer and found it really interesting

veryvery · 18/01/2020 17:16

Pah! ! Most of the enjoyment is in the first mouthful! Grin

Branleuse · 18/01/2020 17:17

Veryvery, you have clearly developed an eating disorder. Running an hour a day, then walking an hour and a half while strictly measuring food out and occasionally eating a single potato chip will make you lose weight clearly, but is not good for you long term. It is obsessive and disordered. Being quite happy while you do it doesnt make it sustainable. Ive been pretty happy throwing my meals up three times a day in the past and/or obsessively exercising, but long term its no way to live and if it doesnt affect your physical health, it can still affect your mental health. Just check out the minnesota starvation experiment.

veryvery · 18/01/2020 17:26

And this is dinner. Washed down with a glass of wine!🍷Smile

To think most family meals are low enough in caloroes and the diet industry is not necessary?
Rastamousehat · 18/01/2020 17:29

Veryvery, you have clearly developed an eating disorder. Running an hour a day, then walking an hour and a half while strictly measuring food out and occasionally eating a single potato chip will make you lose weight clearly, but is not good for you long term. It is obsessive and disordered. Being quite happy while you do it doesnt make it sustainable. Ive been pretty happy throwing my meals up three times a day in the past and/or obsessively exercising, but long term its no way to live and if it doesnt affect your physical health, it can still affect your mental health. Just check out the minnesota starvation experiment.

I also thought this was classic ED behaviour.

My mum was overweight while I was growing up. She cooked everything from scratch but probably did have too big portions. Also she assumed home baking was less fattening than anything bought. So she would feel contrite if she had a penguin biscuit for example, but not realise that the wedge of fruitcake that Barbara from WI made, probably had twice the calories!

Branleuse · 18/01/2020 17:30

So thats about 1.5 tablespoons of beef stew, a single sweet potato chunk, a yorkshire and a load of green beans?

Looks nice, but id definitely need to eat again later.

lljkk · 18/01/2020 17:30

That looks like a predinner snack to me (says she of the 2500/day)

adaline · 18/01/2020 17:33

@veryvery I did, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with it.

You can eat a healthy diet without putting all your food intake into an app and eating a sole potato wedge just to have some carbs in your plate.

Sounds like a very unhealthy attitude to food, really.

maddiemookins16mum · 18/01/2020 17:33

YANBU. There was a thread on here once where someone proudly stated that she, her DP and two kids ate.....
2 x 8 pack of sausages
2 x boxes of potato waffles (so ten in each say)
3 tins of beans
a bag on onion rings.

For one evening meal.

veryvery · 18/01/2020 17:36

Branleuse, with all due respect it really isn't. I happily eat out and indulge on special occasions. I had a full Xmas dinner, with pudding and after dinner chocolates and champagne etc etc.

If my eating is disordered then so is most people's who train for anything or who are on a weight loss diet.

veryvery · 18/01/2020 17:39

That looks like a predinner snack to me (says she of the 2500/day)

You'd hate hospital food, then!

veryvery · 18/01/2020 17:41

So thats about 1.5 tablespoons of beef stew, a single sweet potato chunk, a yorkshire and a load of green beans?

Looks nice, but id definitely need to eat again later.

Ladle full of beef in beer, sweet potato wedge, a Yorkshire, green beans and peas with 1 large glass on wine and a mug of coffee and cream afterwards.

Try it one day. See if you're hungry. Smile

LaurieFairyCake · 18/01/2020 17:53

veryvery

Maffetone training is running ? Confused not low carb?

Maybe not aimed at me and you got confused with someone else ?

veryvery · 18/01/2020 17:57

Yes, Maffetone training is running to a particular intensity so your heart rate does not go too high. It helps your body become efficient at burning fat as an energy source, Fairie. If you are efficient in burning fat as an energy source if you've low blood sugar your body can easily switch to burning fat so you don't experience sugar low symptoms such as the shakes you said you experienced in your post. People can run fasted.

veryvery · 18/01/2020 18:08

Sorry, that last post to Laurie

AllHeart1 · 18/01/2020 18:32

It’s about both calorie intake as well as portion size as one goes with the other.

The smaller the portion and the less junk the less calories you are going to consume, but that shouldn’t be rocket science.

Also, people say they need bigger portions because they eat bigger portions, and therefore their body is used to them. So anything smaller seems like not enough. But if you modify your eating habits then your body will also adjust.

I remember the first time I went to the states we ate at some diner in the morning and had a breakfast which consisted of two bacon, two eggs, two sausages, two pancakes and hash browns. Shock. At the beginning of the week I struggled to eat it all but by the end I was happily munching through it.

Also the amount of eating between meals is something we need to look at. We seem to be obsessed with the need for snacking. The kids should have a couple of snack times, even at school, and as babies we build snacks into their routine and don’t leave the house without them. Then this follows into adulthood.

While it’s perfectly ok to eat snacks between meals we don’t need to snack on the level that we seem to.

And then we also need to keep an eye on what’s in the food. Salt for instance will make you retain fluid which in turn makes you gain weight, but other than that it has its own detrimental impact on the body, the heart etc. I am currently fluid restricted for medical reasons and have been told to keep an eye on my salt intake, and the results have been eye watering. E.g. one stock cube contains a 3rd of your daily salt allowance.

The consultant essentially said anything that isn’t fresh is going to contain more salt, and while not everyone might want to enter down the home made chicken stock route, there are other changes you can make to balance out.

Equally sugar is empty calories and low fat meals contain loads of it.

And we need to get past this need to not discuss food lest it upset someone with food issues. Truth is that it’s this amount of avoidance which leads to the obesity epidemic, because people are led to believe it’s something which shouldn’t be discussed for fear of what it might trigger.

Yet we happily discuss someone’s drinking with them, when alcohol could equally be based on wanting to deal with other things iyswim.

Movinghouseatlast · 18/01/2020 18:35

Very very that is a tiny portion, like something a small child would eat. It really is not normal eating. If it was normal why try to convince us with photos that clearly show a minute helping?

dottiedodah · 18/01/2020 18:39

I read an article a while ago that said home cooked meals were often unhealthy due to butter /milk being added to sauces ,mash etc and portion sizes too large .I remember as a child often being given bread and butter to "mop up the gravy! yet was not fat at all ,and only size 10 when I got married (not any longer sadly)! I also think things like crisps and choc bars which are sold in Multipacks ,are easy to indulge in when we had a single pack on a Saturday for a treat! I think the Diet Industry is lining its own pockets .Most people eat for comfort ,its cold /they are tired /stressed etc .Most diets dont work in the long run ,and a chocolate Hob Nob is always going to be more attractive than an apple!

boldlygoingsomewhere · 18/01/2020 18:42

Very very that is a tiny portion, like something a small child would eat.

Yes. There seem to be so many women on this site who are eating a calorie intake recommended for a 2-3 year old child.

veryvery · 18/01/2020 19:01

Moving, Boldly, it's not a particularly small portion. The plates are big. Bigger than standard. As a rule of thumb a meat portion is the size of the palm of your hand. Mine is. Non starchy veg should cover half of your plate. Mine study. Carbs in the space left. I've eaten it. Was delicious and I'm full.

Everyone seems to be trying to put me in a box of a poor eating disordered woman. I'm really not.

Yes, I'm on a weight loss diet so I don't go wild overindulging on my food. Yes, I exercise. But what would you suggest me do? I was overweight, for a variety of reasons, lost sight of portion size and a bad back prevented me exercising. I got cancer, read about the link to body fat. So excuse me, but I've been doing something about it! After treatment started exercising, little by little. Learnt good running technique discovered I could actually run and enjoy it! Got a FitBit decided to look at my diet. And it's been bloody successful! My doctors and nurses congratulated me! And I'm not so strung up about it that I never indulge on occasions. I might not be perfect but I am content with what I've achieved and I think it's a pity people just want to pick holes in it.

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