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AIBU Turning a blind eye to a ‘friend’ (an escort who could potentially end up exposing hundreds of clients)?

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JennyFromLondon · 15/01/2020 17:16

First time poster, please be gentle. I was actually gonna join a few weeks ago didn't go ahead with it. Its just such a weird situation and I haven't shared it with anyone else. Nonetheless I’ve lurked here long enough to know that some may question why I’m providing so much detail but its just so hard to sum up in a few sentences..

So I have this ‘friend’ from way back who I’ve known since from Sixth Form (quotation marks as she’s not particularly close to me). We used to hang out in the same circle of school-friends, where she was known as a wild child even then, eventually dabbling in drugs like cocaine in her early 20s. We’re now both in our 30s.

All of us (our circle of friends that is) knew that was also into escorting/prostitution (whatever you wish to call it). The rest of our friends moved on with their lives dispersing across the UK and abroad but me and her remained in London and stayed in touch albeit intermittently.

I’ve never really pried into ‘her working life’ as such, as I consider it her private matter and its none of her business, and we haven't really discussed it much. I know her working name and that she has a profile on an escorting site but that's it. Whenever we’ve had a conversation about her work, she's the one who has initiated it. I suppose she sees me as someone she can open up to from time to time, as she has no real friends.

We only meet once every few months so I can’t claim to know her well, I mean, there is probably a lot I don’t know. But during the past few years she's mentioned on more than one occasion how she hates her job yet loves the money and can't break free of this. She also told me how she's come to despite her clients many of whom are married. One time she even fell out with some on some reviews site, though I don’t know any more details about it.

I normally meet her at a coffee shop or at her place in the City. The last meeting was at her place and it was here she joked that she wanted to show me something that she hadn't shown anyone else. She got her laptop and showed me files that were full of pics and vids labelled ‘January Clients,’ ‘February Clients’ and so on and quite meticulously organized. I thought it was her work rota or something, but she then played one of the videos and it was a guy walking into a bedroom handing her an envelope. The footage was very clear so I knew it was her. She asked me if I recognized the room and suddenly it dawned on me it was the same bedroom we were standing in!

I thought it was something to do with camming, and this is when she told me these were actually pics and vids of her meeting all her clients from the past 3 years. Initially it was cos of security (she works alone) but she just carried on doing it. i honestly didn't know what to say..!?

She then told me she had starting thinking about finding a buyer for all this content or somehow monetizing it herself by building a new website. She seemed utterly oblivious to the fact that none of these guys had consented to be filmed and most of them would probably be in a lot of shit if they got found out! Then again its possible she was partly doing this out of spite, I don't know.

I didn't confront her as such but did tell her how weird it all was and left it at that. The thing is I'm pretty certain she's doing the same to more unsuspecting clients as her Adultwork (escorting site) profile showed she logged in the same day when I checked last week. I feel so bad for her clients and its so scary that she has so much stuff on them without their knowledge.

She texted me afterwards asking if I was okay and said she was worried she has shown me too much but I said it was okay. She texted me again that same evening saying please not to tell anyone and saying that maybe it had been a bad idea to tell me all that but I said not to worry. Last week I got another text from her asking me if I'd told anyone but she never texts this way after we meet up. I reassured her that I hadn't told anyone but I’m thinking of just cutting off the relationship and never speaking to her again after this. She clearly needs help but PROFESSIONAL HELP. Part of me feels sorry for her as she’s clearly alone with no-one to talk to and maybe if she had had regular friends she wouldn’t have ended up being so weird.

Thanks guys

OP posts:
JennyFromLondon · 15/01/2020 17:18

Sorry that ended up being such a long post but your advice/opinions would really be helpful as its the weirdest situation I've ever found myself in. Thanks

OP posts:
jellycatspyjamas · 15/01/2020 17:21

I’m honestly going to find it hard to have much sympathy for a married man who chooses to see an escort. If he wasn’t there, there would be nothing to expose.

TheQueef · 15/01/2020 17:21

Savvy not weird.

jellycatspyjamas · 15/01/2020 17:23

My advice would be to keep yourself out of it, you clearly judge her for the kind of work she does and don’t see that these men are far from being victims here. Either be her friend or don’t but stop worrying yourself about the details of her working life.

NotExactlyHappyToHelp · 15/01/2020 17:25

I’d be very very worried about her for two reasons.

  1. If she does sell these videos would the men in them seek to do her harm as retribution?
  1. She must be desperate to get out of escorting to be thinking about trying to profit from these videos.

I have absolutely no sympathy for the married men but an awful lot of sympathy for your friend. Don’t cut her off.

LigPatin · 15/01/2020 17:25

What Jelly Cat said.
It's difficult to feel bad for anyone using a prostitute, least of all those who are married.

Hirsutefirs · 15/01/2020 17:26

Blackmail is not exactly a step up from prostitution.

MsTSwift · 15/01/2020 17:28

Ha! Well blackmail is a crime so “monetising” the footage may not work out for her. Have zero sympathy for the “clients” personally who gives a shit about their rights?

What a delightful friend you have there op.

Berthatydfil · 15/01/2020 17:29

As a disclaimer I have no sympathy with the men who have used her services.
However
Blackmail is a crime. She only needs one of those men to call her bluff and go to the police and she will be in big trouble.
If you are a genuine friend of hers perhaps you should tell her that what she is planning is a criminal act despite how sleazy the guys are.
after that it’s up to you if you want to keep in touch or not.

MsTSwift · 15/01/2020 17:29

I guess she could go full on criminal and sell the footage to people on the dark web who can then do the blackmailing? I may have read too many crime novels

Awkward1 · 15/01/2020 17:29

Obviously she shouldnt blackmail/sell the data but i cant get much sympathy for men choosing to visit prostitutes.

2020BetterBeBetter · 15/01/2020 17:30

I wouldn’t cut her out. I would tell her you don’t agree with her blackmailing the men and leave it at that. I would imagine she will never bring it up with you again. Then again, you call her weird and judge her so maybe she is better off with no friends than with you. 🤷🏻‍♀️

MuchBetterNow · 15/01/2020 17:31

If she tried to blackmail any of her clients she'll be committing a very serious offence, probably best to point that out to her.

jellycatspyjamas · 15/01/2020 17:32

I doubt very much any of those men will be rushing to the police to admit having sex with a prostitute, which they’d need to admit if they were going to complain about blackmail.

I’d be more concerned they might seek more immediate forms of revenge.

OP, is sounds like your friend has been struggling for many years - your concern for her is truly touching Hmm

BigFatLiar · 15/01/2020 17:35

It could also be seen as a form of revenge porn which is also an offence.

Patroclus · 15/01/2020 17:35

These men take their chances, thats my view. But just warn her about blackmail.

Scout2016 · 15/01/2020 17:35

I read it that she was thinking of setting up a sort of pay per view porn site,with herself and these men as the content. Not necessarily blackmailing anyone.

Patroclus · 15/01/2020 17:36

blackmail is a significant step up in terms of sentencing.

GladAllOver · 15/01/2020 17:43

It isn't clear whether the video is just of the clients arriving, or of the actual sex.
If it's only the handing over of the money it would be of no use to put up on a paying eeb site. It could only be used for blackmail.
In any case you should keep well clear.

CunningOperative · 15/01/2020 17:50

You sound a bit two faced. Poor woman if you're her closest friend.
And I have zero sympathy for any of those guys, I hope they get found out and I hope they get in a lot of shit.

Thinkingabout1t · 15/01/2020 17:53

Jenny for godsake keep your distance from this woman. She sounds like a hand grenade about to go off. Blackmail is illegal, and carries heavy penalties. If she's planning a pay-to-view porn site without her clients' consent (which she's unlikely to get), she is putting herself at risk of violent revenge. Nothing about this sounds good.

Be a good friend and warn her not to take these plans any further. Then please cut off contact. If she ends up in trouble, you don't want to be dragged in.

PlanDeRaccordement · 15/01/2020 17:54

She should just hand the footage in to the police. She can’t monetise it because that would br blackmail. However, if a police investigation resulted in famous/rich men being arrested, losing their positions then she could eventually monetise it by selling the rights to her story for a movie or book.

Sparklycrystals · 15/01/2020 17:57

I couldn’t care less about her clients tbh

DontCallMeShitley · 15/01/2020 17:59

If the men are exposed/blackmailed and the shit hits the fan with wives etc. they will have nothing to lose by going to the Police or papers.

She needs to think it through very carefully. Exposure in one of the crap newspapers or a court case would have tax implications for her too and a thorough investigation into her affairs by the tax office.

Mummy232019 · 15/01/2020 18:02

itd be extremely dangerous however she meant that, if she meant blackmail that’s a serious crime and could result in backlash from “clients”

If she meant selling it to a site of some kind again it could be seen by the men or their wives and could cause the men to lash out at her.

If you care about this friend, I would advise her not to sell the videos, if she decides to still do it then please make her check in with you after every encounter so you know she is safe. She sounds very vulnerable

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