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To not continue to help friend

88 replies

QueenofDestruction · 07/01/2020 20:18

At the beginning of December my neighbour, who we have a very good relationship with and who we would consider a friend (but not of the close variety) had a terrible breakup with her partner. She caught him cheating whilst away on holiday and he tore up her plane ticket left her goes home and took all his things and a lot of hers and moved out. He stopped paying a lot of things including his half of the rent and took both their cars, she had recently reduced work hours due to his insistence and and as then left financially stranded. He was imo abusive but she was left as others before her in dire straits just before Christmas with a daughter (from previous relationship). She is a very good cook and gardener and asked me if She could help me out at home cooking and with odd jobs for an hourly rate, I doing really need any help but felt it was because she didn't want to ask for a hand out so I gave her £300 for helping bit when asked because it was Christmas coming up and she has a child I said she could make me a Christmas cake .
We only asked her to fetch a few things for us when she was going to the shops herself maybe 5 times in the month and if course don't expect repaymnet. We also supply her with say extra eggs when we buy, milk etc..

However, this month I got an email asking whether she can continue ' working' for us and I paid her again, but frankly feel resentful as a few.months were mentioned. I really don't want to leave a mother stranded but neither do I want to support her. I bought her really nice Christmas presents but feel she was a little grabby about them and also I felt she could have reciprocated at least with a few baked biscuits or something cheap.

When we paid her again she invited us around for dinner to Thank us and then had 'forgotten' which I might be being a selfish about but feel somehow mugged. I am worried about leaving her in a bad situation with a child to support but am feeling used.

I am thinking enough how to deal with it , do I continue to help out for a few months to May when she has another job starting, do I decrease the amount by £100 over the next 2 months or tell her that I won't be helping her from next month? I am also a neighbour and want the relationship to stay pleasant. I had always intended the help to be short lived.

Any advice on how to deal with it. I don't want to be selfish and part of me feels that I am extra resentful because she has not just come and say just trim a rosebush, provided a cake she baked or something like that. We don't expect her to work but she offered and I probably feel used that she didn't at least do I something. At this I don't mean hard labour just a token act.

She does have family and an ex husband who pays minimum but they also are all low earners and she won't be able to afford to stay next door without my help and I might end up with a worse neighbiur!

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GinDaddy · 07/01/2020 20:22

Making your friend a salaried employee in order to remedy her financial situation will only end in tears. It really will.

She needs a slip road to self sufficiency - you're only creating expectations.

It was a kind thing to do in the first instance but this has gone beyond that now.

TheReluctantCountess · 07/01/2020 20:23

What exactly have you paid her for?

Noshowlomo · 07/01/2020 20:23

She’s basically just asking you to keep on giving her money. It’s horrible and she’s desperate but she’s not your responsibility. Give her the contact details for your local council benefit line. There should be a money advice unit that can help her.

TripleSeptic · 07/01/2020 20:26

"I have been so happy to be able to help you out this last couple of months, thanks for everything you've done for us, this is January, 6 weeks between payday, I wouldn't be able to continue with this arrangement. Can I do anything for you? Help with benefits, refresh your CV, mind the children when you go for an interview? Just ask, I want to see you get back on your feet. You've had it rough, but you're so strong and resourceful"

Lulualla · 07/01/2020 20:26

What do you mean you paid her again when she emailed? What "work"did she do for that pay? Is she still cooking or cleaning or something? Because even if she is, you wouldn't be paying s cleaner £300 a month. What on earth are you doing?

Just stop it. I really dont understand what the hello possessed you to start giving her £300 a month for what... a bit of cooking?

khaleesiofthegreatgrasssea · 07/01/2020 20:32

"Just to let you know, going forward this isn't in my budget so I can't carry on employing/paying you [whichever you've been saying to her]. Thanks for your help over the last X weeks though!"

You've only just paid her so she has a month to get her head round it and sort something else out. You can help her in other ways if you want such as budgeting, finding discounts, cash back sites, giving her details of money management/debt advice resources, job hunting etc.

Mlou32 · 07/01/2020 20:33

I think TripleSeptics idea is excellent. It's a way of letting her know you can't help out financially anymore but you're still there for her.

QueenofDestruction · 07/01/2020 20:36

Well, it as really meant to be a help but she didn't want a hand out so asked if she could help us out and we pay her. I could not ask her to clean she is my neighbour.. But I had hoped for more help maybe a few meals or something but she has not cooked at all or really done much of anything tbh. I have already paid her for January but don't really want to carry on

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QueenofDestruction · 07/01/2020 20:39

Thanks Tripleseptics that wording is great. I feel bad because I can afford it it will only really affect the holiday I am saving for in Summer.

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HollowTalk · 07/01/2020 20:39

Can you tell us what you've paid her and what she's done in exchange?

I think you're going to get an onslaught of "CF" comments.

olivertwistwantsmore · 07/01/2020 20:41

So she wants you to pay her but then not to do anything for the money? Asks you round for dinner then ‘forgets’? She’s a chancer.

Op, in the kindest possible way, you are a soft touch. Tell her now you will not be paying her again for anything.

Why would you? You’re not getting anything in return!

QueenofDestruction · 07/01/2020 20:42

I have paid her £600 now and she has gone to the pharmacy once and also organised a delivery for me when I wants not home and brought some groceries for us when she went for her shop.(3-5 times last month). I think that is it.

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Monty27 · 07/01/2020 20:43

I'd nip this arrangement in the bud OP

MargeryB · 07/01/2020 20:43

I voted yabu because I can't believe you got yourself in this situation! You've gone above and beyond already.

QueenofDestruction · 07/01/2020 20:44

I know I have been happy to pay her the once off to help out but didn't want to continue. She is my only close neighbour so it would be hard if things get awkward.

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Letseatgrandma · 07/01/2020 20:45

She is a very good cook and gardener and asked me if She could help me out at home cooking and with odd jobs for an hourly rate, I doing really need any help

That’s just bizarre! If you’re a brilliantly good cook-you go and get a job somewhere serving food, you don’t decide you’ll cook meals for your friend!

You’ve paid her £600-that is even more bizarre!

Do you have a history of struggling to say no to people?!

FruitcakeOfHate · 07/01/2020 20:46

WTF? You just tell her, 'Sorry, finances are a lot tighter now in the new year. We have to pull in our belts and I won't be able to outsource anything.' The end.

MyNewBearTotoro · 07/01/2020 20:47

It’s not really clear from your post what work she is doing and what you’re paying her? On the one hand you say you’re paying her to do odd jobs but you say she isn’t cooking or cleaning or trimming bushes in the garden or baking you goods so what is she doing. You paid her £300 a month which would be around 20-30 hours work at £10-15 an hour so what has she actually done?

MyKingdomForBrie · 07/01/2020 20:47

Can I work for you too please OP?! Christ she is a massive CF!! Yes she's desperate for money but she has just taken it without even trying to give in return.

makingmammaries · 07/01/2020 20:49

You could perfectly well ask her to clean. My neighbour and friend is a cleaner. When I need cleaning help I ask her to do it and pay the going rate. We’re still friends.

UndertheCedartree · 07/01/2020 20:50

It sounds like she offered to do jobs for you but you never asked her to do anything?

You've paid her for January so why not ask her to do some gardening or baking for you?

And send Tripleseptic's message.

Drum2018 · 07/01/2020 20:50

For gods sake cop on to yourself. She is not your responsibility. Don't give her another penny. You were crazy to give her £300 to make a bloody cake. Just don't give her any more money. You don't have a contract with her. Youre not employing her. She's a CF who has figured out that you're a soft touch so she'll continue to use you. Text her asap and tell her you wish her well but you won't be giving her any more money. And be careful offering to mind her kids if you do use @TripleSeptic suggestion - otherwise you could find yourself with her kids at your house every evening for dinner! Set some clear boundaries now so she doesn't try to take advantage of you again.

QueenofDestruction · 07/01/2020 20:50

Letseatgrandma, I am quite good at No to people I don't know or at work but not when it comes to friends especially they have children , I hate seeing people suffer like she has when I am just saving up for a holiday and she worries about her child having a home and eating

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Babybel90 · 07/01/2020 20:50

WTF, will you pay me to do fuck all too?

Sickandscared · 07/01/2020 20:51

So she has done some standard decent neighbour stuff. You need to get out of this arrangement.

I would simply say -
I'm afraid I can't keep the financial arrangement going beyond this month but definitely here to support you in any other way I can. I'm so sorry about the awful time you've had - it goes without saying if you need an ear, a hand with the children then please just ask. Regarding this month's pay, can we agree a list of tasks?

Seriously why does she think you will pay her for no work? Utterly ridiculous.

And if you're saving for a holiday which you then miss then sorry but that is impacting you.

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