To think we can move the Labour party back to the centre by registering on 14-16 Jan...

[WarwickLife]

...if enough of us register to vote? The 48 hour window to register to vote in the leadership election has been announced as 14-16 January. I think it's worth £25 to join and have my say.

If enough of us do then perhaps we can actually get the centre left opposition that most people want and those who "reluctantly" voted Conservative can come back?

Electability at any cost???

I think that some people are looking for simple solutions. Just 'moving back to the centre' or electing the right leader is not the answer by itself. Obviously electing someone sensible is a start but then it's going to be building the right team around them and thinking about which policies to focus on. I don't think that it's as simple as 'left, right or centre' any more.

I am not worried about ideology
I am interested in Competence
The current government is full of incompetents.
The outgoing Labour front bench is full of incompetents.

If the incoming Labour front bench is full of competent people it will shred the government.

Then they need to make competent policy decisions that benefit as many people as possible.

Extreme political beliefs rarely combine with competence.

Yes exactly my sentiments - hard to achieve much without competence. Nobody is saying they what electability at any cost but you can’t achieve anything without being elected except for some cute sound bites.

Look at Greta Thunberg and extinction rebellion - I’m a huge fan of hers and them but it’s dismaying how little policy change has resulted from all the protesting and twitter feeds etc.

So has anyone else signed up as a registered supporter to do this? The deadline is tomorrow afternoon and I've just done it.

Hoping for Lisa Nandy or Kier Starmer.

@Justanotherlurker
The previous 25 pound supporter ramp up was during the second leadership election when the party assumed all Corbyn supporters were poor and would not stump up so much, winning their Radical Owen the top spot.
It was not to be.
Momentum are not all over the party, they are an electioneering team, and if you think Tory lite is any opposition, then you are deluded. The manifesto went down well, it's Corbyn people had problems with.

Also, I've been a member since Miliband, a lifelong voter, and i really don't know why this supporter nonsense is allowed. Bunch of Tory entryists.

Please tell me I've misunderstood. I could pay £25 to vote for Labour leader without being a member of the Party? Is that right? Surely not?

I agree the Tory front bench is full of incompetents but I think that matters less if you have good advisers. BJ has Dominic Cummings and Lynton Crosby's protege (forget his name) PR team ran a clear, simple election camapign "get brexit done". Corbyn's manifesto was all things to all people so ended up pleasing few. His front bench was also full of incompetents and I think he was ill advised by Milne. Jess Phillips in the Guardian today on her six point plan to restore faith in politicians calls Johnson "A blond baboon" in the first paragraph. I loathe BJ but it's not a good look to call fellow politicians nasty names if you want to be respected back. If she wants to take the moral high ground over BJ's offensive language then you need to have clean hands yourself.

I feel it's like the GE again, no one who is worthy of a vote. Depressing.

@longwayoff sadly that is the case.
Was 3 pounds in 2016, then the powers that be fretted too many plebs signed up to vote Corbyn, and have spent the intervening years trying to pull up the ladder.
Now, PMQs is on.

I don't think that it's as simple as 'left, right or centre' any more.
Totally agree - the Tories have stolen any Labour policies that looked vaguely popular.

So, all the rightwingers who hate Labour can pay £25 to vote for Long BaiIey and help ensure Labour not elected next time? How clever. God help us.

Don't you think the right wingers will simply vote, and win like they did last time? I'm not sure I'd pay £25 when there's no evidence that labour is a serious threat.

Maybe. Labour is desperately enfeebled and Ms LB is apparently in the lead. This registration is just one more piece of absurdity to add to the mix. Incomprehensible to me.

I'm not a Labour voter, but could be tempted with the right person and the right policies. I think the biggest problem Labour has is they are trying to pick the person who will appeal to most Labour voters and who they like the most. As proven by the last election, that won't win them the election - they need someone who can convince non-Labour voters to vote for them. And not just from the 2019 election - but given they also didn't win in the 2017 election, I'm afraid they need to stretch even wider than that.

There seems to be a blindness to how attractive to votes most of these candidates are. The only 2 that could potentially attract non die-hard existing Labour voters are Keir Starmer and Lisa Nandy. Lisa Nandy was exceptional in the Andrew Neil interview last night - but unfortunately blew it by saying she supports freedom of movement. That won't win an election for Labour.

And as for Angela Rayner - the love for her astounds non-Labour voters. She is aggressive, petulant and blocks anyone who disagrees with her on Twitter - hardly the type to win over floating voters.

As I say, not currently a Labour voter, but hope a perspective from someone they would need to win over in order to win an election helps a little bit!