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TV nudity is it just me?

87 replies

Whythoughlol · 05/01/2020 13:56

Not sure if this is the right category but wanted people's opinions.

I've noticed I feel uncomfortable watching shows or films that show just female nudity.
It really bothers me when it just feels like it's done for the sake of it and the male cast members aren't equally as nude or not nude at all. I don't feel bothered when it makes sense to the story or is artistic as such.

I've put it down to being pregnant right now and not feeling attractive but I also notice I feel its a lot to do with me feeling like it's not fair that often it's just women and male actors you might see a bum but i don't feel it's the same to a women having her breasts out or do you think it is?

I read an article the other day I think it was in the metro about Emilia Clarke and how she really struggled and felt pressured into nude scenes in game of thrones and now I wonder if all these young actresses feel like that at times.

I'm also young in my 20s but feel as I'm getting older I've noticed just how unequal stuff like this is in the media and TV and film.

I'm not good at articulating my point of view. Do I need to work on my self esteem or am I right to feel these things and not alone in that.

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Jaxhog · 05/01/2020 13:59

I'm with you. So much nudity on TV (and in films) is one-sided and gratuitous. What with this, the excessive violence and constant swearing, I watch very little TV these days.,

sameasiteverwasantiques · 05/01/2020 13:59

Doesn't bother me seeing other people naked on tv or at the cinema. I watch porn sometimes too. Being naked myself doesn't bother me either in front of certain people.

EvaHarknessRose · 05/01/2020 14:03

I know, I am also now unwilling to watch thrillers that rely on the rape, kidnap, murder or mutilation of young women for their thrills.

Chuffit · 05/01/2020 14:17

I don't mind nudity if it's in context to the story. However, these days it just seems to be for the sake of it, adding nothing to the story or plot at all.
Totally needless.

Whythoughlol · 05/01/2020 14:18

It's annoys me as its always a series I want to watch with my partner and I think I'd feel more comfortable if I knew what to say but I feel its my issue and saying how I feel will just make me look insecure which I think half of it is as I know if I could drink a glass a wine I'd probably not give it much thought and laugh it off at how some shows it really is so one sided and not necessary.

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Whythoughlol · 05/01/2020 14:22

Yeah that's when it really bothers me when it's just boobs and more boobs and I think is this just for the male audience and will this film or series now most likely be rubbish storey telling and be more about visuals.

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Lowhum · 05/01/2020 14:26

Op, I don’t think you have to be insecure to not feel comfortable viewing nudity.
It is well known that many female actresses have been persuaded to film scenes that make them feel uncomfortable. That is what makes me uncomfortable, not their actual naked bodies.

goldfinchfan · 05/01/2020 14:26

I am old enough now to know it is ok to not feel comfortable watching gratuitous female nudity. It becomes more glaring as you mature that it is just their for the men.....maybe even for the Director, the Actor whatever it is not there for women.

I usually comment "one to keep the men happy" as I find it degrading for the poor actress. Like Emilia Clarke who did look very beautiful nude but really it was not necessary and now we know she wasn't comfortable with it either.

longwayoff · 05/01/2020 14:27

Not bothered by nudity but I wish they'd stop shagging. And gurning. And groaning. And panting. Etc. It's bloody boring once you're out of your teens.

Whythoughlol · 05/01/2020 14:37

I can't think of many top female actors that have done nudes scenes it always seems to be actresses I've never seen before or if it a really famous actor it was done before she was really famous which makes me think a lot of actors would say no if they felt they could. Also don't know if this is right with cgi and stuff nowadays but if a male actor didn't want his bum on TV they could probably use a body double really easy where as with a frontal nude scene with a woman with her face in that must be harder to do?

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TweetUsOnFacebook · 05/01/2020 14:43

It bothers me when its unnecessary to the storyline, which is pretty much all the time.
Bancroft had some sex scenes. You could see and hear they were having sex but the camera then pans down to show her boobs. Totally unnecessary.

zoobincan · 05/01/2020 14:49

I can't think of many top female actors that have done nudes scenes

Sharon stone Grin

Loads of top level female actors have done nudity.

Whythoughlol · 05/01/2020 15:00

Ah I don't know who that is.
But to be fair I'm not much of a film buff when I think of top famous female actors I think of Scarlet Johanson or Keira Knightly, Emma Watson maybe they've done nude stuff too and I haven't seen it though. Blush

Thanks for everyones opinions glad I'm not the only one! Do think I need to work on my self esteem though as probably wouldn't have made a post about it if there wasn't more to it.

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zoobincan · 05/01/2020 15:03

Haha Scarlett and Keira did a nudge cover for vanity fair together Grin

zoobincan · 05/01/2020 15:03

Nude. A nude cover.

BlackCatSleeping · 05/01/2020 15:05

To be fair, there was plenty of male nudity in Game of Thrones too.

AugustFalls · 05/01/2020 15:10

Have you been watching The Witcher, OP?

I had the same discussion about this last night. There’s some scenes where I felt it was fine, but others just seemed for gratification purposes and kind of bothered me, which is a shame as I’m really enjoying the show in general.

I like that breasts are being shown and it’s not a hush-hush thing, but they always seem to shown with sexual undertones (especially due to the fact that they are normally very attractive, slim women).

VirtualHamster · 05/01/2020 15:11

I'm not sure I'd go as far as saying it's balanced, but I think the ratio of female to male nudity is more balanced than it used to be, especially on shows made for netflix/prime.

Whythoughlol · 05/01/2020 15:21

Yes August! That's what I been watching yesterday I'm 3 episodes in and don't know if it's worth watching as I enjoyed it to begin with but now feel the same and can't keep up with what's going on as jumps around so much.

I just don't think a man's bum is the same as a women having her bum and breasts out. I know a male chest should be equal to a woman having her chest out but it just isn't. I tried to watch Broadwalk empire I think that's what it's called and felt same

I think it doesn't help that when I watch nude scenes with my partner we don't say anything where I know if I was with a friend I could say how I feel and it wouldn't be awkward as I feel I have to be the cool wife with stuff like this or look silly.

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Writersblock2 · 05/01/2020 15:25

OP, it’s nothing to do with your self-esteem, so please stop thinking that. You feel your attitude of this is out of line with mainstream thinking because we are TOLD by the media and by society that the purpose of women, particularly young, thin women, is for male pleasure. This is why you’re uncomfortable with the ridiculous amounts of nudity.

However, the nudity is the tip of the iceberg. Someone doesn’t have to be nude for them to be objectified. And the vast majority of women in tv and film are there to be objectified. Sometimes you’ll be thrown a bone and the character might be fleshed out in some other way too, and occasionally you’ll find the Golden Fleece - a woman who has her OWN sexuality and is fleshed out (not a sexuality that adheres to patriarchal ideals). But that’s rare.

So you’re not being unreasonable at all. It’s horrible. I hat to do about it is the question!

Writersblock2 · 05/01/2020 15:26

Also, if your husband is worth his salt, he will listen to your reasoning and perhaps be able to recognise the truths there.

sarahjconnor · 05/01/2020 15:28

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BigFatLiar · 05/01/2020 15:29

Male nudity on screen is generally seen as more offensive/obscene than female nudity particularly in bedroom type scenes where it would involve showing erections.

Joloh · 05/01/2020 15:32

TV sex, well, particularly American tv sex is so weirdly unsexy. It's like some grim joyless aerobics session. Devoid of eroticism. Not sure why it's gone so wrong there. It's all just too much. Same with the violence and the gore. It's just kind of ridiculous? And boring. Not an original observation, I know! I've heard so many people say this lately that I think the fashion will change.

Chuffit · 05/01/2020 15:37

I often wonder how a male viewer would react if a naked male actor on the screen turned round and waved a whopping great hard on at the camera!
Specially if his missus said ' cor, nice cock '
I daresay they would reach for the off button like lightning. 😂