So minimum wage won’t be going up to £9 in April 2020 as pledged

[Lardlizard]

What a suprise
Not going to call it, living wage as it isn’t

Sorry £8.72 I believe pp said.

Quelle surprise. Not.

Many NMW jobs refuse to offer full time hours, Candy. The rise of zero hours contracts also means people in NMW jobs find it next to impossible to juggle two or more jobs because of unpredictable hours and shift patterns and employers demanding staff be available with 12 hours notice or less.

@candycane22 The company I work for, in London pays its Drivers minimum wage. They also work 47.5 hour weeks at standard pay. Which is just over £20k per year to live on. In London. About £1200 per month as you said. Average rent in Slough is £1,200. So their whole pay wiped out. Imagine being a single person in London trying to live, no quality of life as you’re at work 8am-6pm and every other Saturday morning, and their salary is wiped out with rent.

So no, it isn’t a living wage. It’s a not even surviving wage.

I was looking forward to the extra £6,700 per year John McDonnell was promising the average family - I had to cancel the cruise.

Strictly speaking, they pledged it to go up to a certain percentage of the median wage which, according to their growth forecasts, would have meant £9. But the economy hasn't grown according to forecast, so the median wage is less than expected, so the percentage of the median wage works out as less than expected.

In other words they can say "actually, we did fulfill the promise, it's just that the economy hasn't grown as much as we'd hoped". Whereas, of course, they hyped up, not the percentage of median wage they were promising, but the £9 an hour figure because they thought this would sound better to the electorate. Which is, of coure, what any of us would do if we were seeking re-election.

@Clavinova how is your comment remotely relevant?

@candycane22 do tell as your secret as to how you would survive as I’m intrigued!?

£1,200 a month you could not survive on if you live in a expensive area! I know first hand as I earn minimum wage and live in a expensive area!
My rent alone is £1000 a month without other bills and day to day living with a child!

So the Tories lied. In other news, I heard that water is wet now.

I am surprised that anyone believed that the Tories would follow through with it. "Economic conditions" will take a hit through Brexit. The rich will continue to get richer.

One thing that annoys me is that Labour did bring in the minimum wage (which was dismissed by a lot of people) but the Conservatives rebranded it as the Living Wage and took credit for it.

ilovesooty
George Osborne was Chancellor of the Exchequer - John McDonnell was Shadow Chancellor - sometimes their forecasts are wrong.

It's definitely not a living wage. I'm a legal secretary on this wage and my colleagues who are okay with it are only okay with with it because their other halves earn a massive wage so they don't have to. Those of us that aren't in that luxurious position are proper struggling. Hence the reason I've just found another job 😂.

In our town average rent is £1250 pcm so no not threat for all!

Average rent in Slough is £1,200.

I guess a single person would have to share - 2 bedroom flats are £900 pm.

To be fair becca, I wouldn't have a child if I was on minimum wage.
We are 1500 a month on rent (950) and bills (inc food and 2 cars) for two of us.
If I was on my own I would have a 1 bed flat rather than 3 bed house plus bills and good would be cheaper plus just 1 car.

I'm no supporter of the man, but I don't recall Boris Johnson ever promising to raise it to £9. Did I miss something?

LOL, nobody who voted for Boris actually believed him, or even listened to him. As long as they get Brexit and no Corbyn he could have murdered a child live on national television and he’d still have been elected.

A bit agog at the ill informed out rage, I'm assuming this is just a way to bash the tortes, but blaming Boris and then not even knowing what the promise was is batshit.

Any single people I know in London share.

vote.conservatives.com/news/ending-low-pay

From the conservative manifesto on 3 October - doubt anyone read the small print that the living wage would increase to 2/3 of median wage...

Conservatives lied and people fell for it and are now trying to justify falling for the lies 😂 The cognitive dissonance is actually frightening.

@candycane22 let’s hope your never in the position like so many thousands of people that are on minimum wage with a child. Many people don’t choose to have a child on minimum wage everyone’s circumstances are different.

I know single people who do house share and live in zone 6 they struggle on £1200 or more a month. A 2 bed property is over £1000 a month and that’s a cheap little flat without bills included.

So Boris Johnson never actually promised £9 (George Osborne did and was called out for breaking that promise) and the MLW is going up: www.bbc.com/news/business-50947097

Isn't this thread the literal definition of fake news?

Isn't this thread the literal definition of fake news?

Yup, labour supporters scraping the barrel