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To report someone who has a pitbull?

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IAmNotLego · 04/01/2020 19:03

They boast about it being a pitbull, in IRL and on Facebook. Told me they weren't going to have it neutered (so it would continue to grow as big as possible), but had registered it. Surely it would need to be neutered? As part of this?

They told me they have it muzzled in public.

Second conversation. They've said it attacked 2 dogs, so has now been neutered.

I've seen the dog out in public without a muzzle and off lead..

I'm sure some will tell me to mind my own business. But I'd feel awful if something happened to another dog/animal or a child and it could have been prevented.

OP posts:
OverByYer · 05/01/2020 16:37

Wtf?
This thread has brought out some right loons

FacesLookUgly · 05/01/2020 16:55

I think this thread has attracted some bonkers sorts that are not usually on mn and should be pulled. My 2 cents.

spingly · 05/01/2020 16:57

@CustardDream I reported their post on here but that's beyond vile!

Are you ok?

IdiotInDisguise · 05/01/2020 16:59

They are in mumsnet alright. They just show their true selves when you touch something that is close to their hearts.

CustardDream · 05/01/2020 17:22

There also seems to be a conection bertween owning a pitbull and strugling to rite a coherent sentense. 🤔

IdiotInDisguise · 05/01/2020 19:25

Rite... do you have a pitbull? Grin

Moondancer73 · 05/01/2020 19:43

Mind your own business. The dog probably isn't a pit bull, it's more than likely bragging for status and the most you're likely to do is get the dog seized and held in kennels in horrible conditions for a long time. Go and read up on BSL, it goes on measurements and is a cruel and stupid law. Stop meddling

Annebell · 05/01/2020 19:53

I had 1 too a red nose defo pitball blood test was taken 100 percent

Annebell · 05/01/2020 19:56

Lol pitfalls do exsist

Moondancer73 · 05/01/2020 19:56

@frostedviolets what absolute bullshit. Talk about a sweeping generalisation - "bull breeds all over the Uk are known to be dog intolerant". No they are not. In fact last year Stafford were voted as the nations favourite dog. It just happens that they are vilified in the media when they are owned by a certain type of irresponsible owner and moronic idiots believe it.

CustardDream · 05/01/2020 20:03

But staffies are known to be 'dog aggressive'. It's a fact.

Peterspotter · 05/01/2020 20:07

Jesus what happened to this thread!

I just came in to say I’ve had to Pitts and they were they were brilliant to train and big softies, one was terrified of next doors cat! I hate what idiots have done to them. I’d have another in shot.

CJsGoldfish · 05/01/2020 20:11

There also seems to be a conection bertween owning a pitbull and strugling to rite a coherent sentense

This seems true.

She is the sweetest dog Wouldn't hurt a fly Has never been aggressive

Says every owner of a dog who has attacked someone. Hmm
The absolute denial that 'your' dog would ever attack a person is probably just as dangerous as anything else.
And a dog that attacks other dogs? Much defense of that too.

OP, definitely report. If it is an aggressive dog, appropriate steps will be taken I hope.

frostedviolets · 05/01/2020 20:20

what absolute bullshit. Talk about a sweeping generalisation - "bull breeds all over the Uk are known to be dog intolerant". No they are not. In fact last year Stafford were voted as the nations favourite dog. It just happens that they are vilified in the media when they are owned by a certain type of irresponsible owner and moronic idiots believe it

FYI Staffies happen to be one of my favourite dog breeds.

Infact, DH's old dog was a staffy and I absolutely adored him.

I am in no way 'vilifying' bull breeds, I don't agree with breed specific legislation and I don't negatively judge bull breed owners.

However.

Bull breeds are known to often be dog intolerant.

All breeds have their faults.

Border Collies are known to often be neurotic, cocker spaniels are known to often have resource guarding issues etc etc.

That's not to say ALL bull breeds are dog intolerant or ALL Collies are neurotic or ALL cockers are resource guarders, that would be ridiculous.
But all breeds have their own known general quirks and positives and negatives and denying the existence of the negatives helps no one.

Moondancer73 · 05/01/2020 22:00

Bull breeds are far less intolerant of other dogs than small dogs - jack Russells , westies etc.

I'm not denying any breed specifics or traits. Simply stating that what you are saying is a sweeping generalisation. The 'bull breeds in general' that you speak of - the ones you have plainly read about in the media are either raised wrong, used as status digs or have irresponsible owners and people like yourself who fail to see through the nonsense in the media is the biggest problem

Pepper2811 · 05/01/2020 22:02

Pitbull purebred dogs and Pitbull types in my experience are exceptionally friendly breeds with other dogs and with people.
This dog to me sounds like it is already in the wrong hands, and if you dont report it someone will. If the dog is seized it will stay in holding kennels for a number of assessments to ascertain whether it is of any threat to the public. The dog could be returned with strict guidelines that have to be followed, if the dog is deemed dangerous in anyway it will be destroyed.
It sickens me that these dogs are still bred and breed types are still bred to fight. But you have the other owners who do right by these dogs. For me it's all about the wrong hands.
I dont think you will be doing wrong reading about your concerns, it's just sad we cant take owners away from the dog for an assessment on them!!!!

frostedviolets · 05/01/2020 22:36

Bull breeds are far less intolerant of other dogs than small dogs - jack Russells , westies etc
I disagree but fine.

I'm not denying any breed specifics or traits
You are denying that dog intolerance/aggression is a known issue in the bull breed group.
Many bull breed owners themselves are very careful to socialise their puppies extensively because it is well known that they can be prone to dog aggression.
Something you are outright denying.
Pit bull terriers let's not forget were bred for dog fighting.
It is no secret that quite a few bull breed dogs grow up not liking other dogs.

Simply stating that what you are saying is a sweeping generalisation
A 'sweeping generalisation* acknowledged by huge numbers of bull breed owners and fans..?

The 'bull breeds in general' that you speak of - the ones you have plainly read about in the media are either raised wrong, used as status digs or have irresponsible owners and people like yourself who fail to see through the nonsense in the media is the biggest problem
I think you should read through what I have said a little more thoroughly.

Incase it wasn't clear:

  1. I like bull breed dogs.
  2. I would never negatively judge a bull breed owner.
  3. I despise breed specific legislation and do not consider Pit bull terriers or any other bull breed dog as 'dangerous' but I do acknowledge that one of the potential downsides of the breed group is they can be prone to dog aggression and great care therefore needs to be taken to socialise them adequately.
  4. I think the way the media portrays the breed group is disgusting.

As I said, denying the potential issues of your favoured breed doesn't do anyone any favours.

I think you are confused as to whose side I am actually on.

I have been speaking out in defence of pit bulls, Staffies and the like.
I grew up around them, DH had one, I love them.

I was just saying that that fact the alleged pit bull terrier had attacked two other dogs didn't really surprise me because dog aggression is a known problem in that breed.

Nothing more.

I am not 'against' bull breeds.

Peterspotter · 05/01/2020 22:42

Bull breeds are far less intolerant of other dogs than small dogs - jack Russells , westies etc

That’s not true at all. They just don’t do as much damage as bigger dogs but can still be very nasty.

EntropyRising · 06/01/2020 06:24

There also seems to be a conection bertween owning a pitbull and strugling to rite a coherent sentense.

I had noticed this, yes. Wink

As for this:
She is the sweetest dog Wouldn't hurt a fly Has never been aggressive

I believe that is the majority of cases where a dog has mauled someone either to death or to the point of life-changing injuries (usually, this involves a pitbull or a bull terrier), it was the first violent episode. So I have no interest in anyone's opinion that their pitbull is soppy and so on.

frostedviolets · 06/01/2020 08:35

I believe that is the majority of cases where a dog has mauled someone either to death or to the point of life-changing injuries (usually, this involves a pitbull or a bull terrier), it was the first violent episode. So I have no interest in anyone's opinion that their pitbull is soppy and so on

Maybe that is the case in America where pit bulls are extremely popular but in the UK Labradors, Spaniels and Dachshunds are consistently top offenders for bites.

Presumably simply because there are so many of them rather than being inherently dangerous.

CustardDream · 06/01/2020 08:39

But how many people are killed by spaniels/dachshunds?

MelroseHigginbottom · 06/01/2020 08:44

Yes report it OP!

Vicious, vile creatures. And the owners usually are worse. I once witnessed one such dog tearing the ear of a puppy nearly clean off (as they were walking past a children's playground full of small kids and toddlers no less!). The safety of people especially children is more important than someone having a 'cool' dog.

EntropyRising · 06/01/2020 08:47

Maybe that is the case in America where pit bulls are extremely popular but in the UK Labradors, Spaniels and Dachshunds are consistently top offenders for bites.

I've repeated this so many times on this thread, but the stat about Labs is that they are the most claimed against on insurance policies. Which dramatically shifts the pool of dogs and owners, being that they're insured i.e. fairly responsible people with assets to protect and so forth.

frostedviolets · 06/01/2020 08:58

But how many people are killed by spaniels/dachshunds?
There are many articles detailing horrific maul injuries from labradors, spaniels and the like.

I can't imagine a dachshund killing an adult, but there absolutely have been cases here of babies and young children (and the vast majority of bites recorded are to children under 5) killed by very small dogs like dachshunds, Yorkshire terriers, jack Russell's etc.

I've repeated this so many times on this thread, but the stat about Labs is that they are the most claimed against on insurance policies. Which dramatically shifts the pool of dogs and owners, being that they're insured i.e. fairly responsible people with assets to protect and so forth
Perhaps, but I have met enough vicious labradors to be a bit wary of the breed and their owners have never cared one bit.

I have had leashed labradors lunge and snarl at me as I walk past and no acknowledgement or apology or anything from the owner.

I've even had a Labrador run from a field and stalk and force me and my dog against a fence growling at us.
Again, the owners just carried on walking.

I have yet to meet a bull breed that has shown aggression to me.

I have encountered a few that have taken offence to my dog though.

I think the human aggression issue is less to do with breed overall and more to do with bad breeding practice and bad training.

Whenever breeds get popular you end up with very poor temperament specimens being bred from.

mumofthree321 · 06/01/2020 08:58

Sadly, pit bulls were labelled dangerous and a banned breed due to ownership. A powerful dog in the wrong hands, regardless of breed, has the potential to be very dangerous to other dogs and humans. This can also be said for smaller breeds although the consequences may be less severe. Any dog bred responsibly, trained using positive methods and provided with a relationship built on trust and love is (nearly every time) fine to be without muzzle and off lead. This is a problem with the owner not the dog as such. Hopefully the people who have been on the receiving end of the dog's negative behaviour have reported it. I feel desperately sorry for the dog but also understand your concerns. I would probably contact the local dog warden and explain what you've told us as it may be part of a bigger picture and leave it there. You've then done your best in preventing future issues.

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