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AIBU?

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CFery? Or not? Do I just suck this up?

84 replies

ZenNudist · 25/12/2019 20:08

Long, not to dripfeed.

At PILs this year. Meant to see my dsis day after boxing day and go home that night. However MIL has booked a big group of her friend and all her friends's family to come on 27th. Dsis is unwell and doesn't want to just fit in with the other family. MIL didn't want to add an extra 2 guests to the huge number here on 27th so Ive ended up driving 90mins there and back to pick up non driving dsis and BIL on boxing day for the day. Im also cooking the food in my family tradition. All good so far. I dont want to drive on boxing day but its a choice I made as dsis is so down.

I do resent having this family foisted on me at Christmas when Im not going to be able to see my dps or cousins because MIL has also planned a family party on 28th. Thats a different issue. Im sucking that up this year and next year hopefully make time for my friends and family (who am I kidding I know MIL would be offended if we didn't visit at Christmas but when the boot is on the other foot my family don't get a look in).

MIL has been friends with this woman lets call her Amy, A for short since forever. They have similar aged children and grandchildren who are perfectly pleasant who we see once every 1 or 2 or 3 years. They never usually get involved in our family Christmas celebrations.

So the AIBU. A's family was going to stay over (already Im thinking thank Christ that's not happening, its awkward enough with close friends and family). Anyway A says her dgc were looking forward to "a sleepover" and are disappointed that isn't happening. MIL is a generous host and loves these kids so immediately said they could stay anyway. Apparently without their mum (divorced in case you wonder where the dad is in all this).

This is where Im put out. I dont see why the kids need to stay over. My two are over excited over tired over indulged and strung out. At the end of the day I will just want to get them into bed and I don't want to be dealing with 2 more children than I have to the next day.

MIL got in a huff when I said it was a bad idea and that I didn't want to be facilitating a dc "sleepover" on top of a day of entertaining 10 of A's family on top of Boxing Day buggered up by the A family party plan, on top of Christmas day (children already at fever pitch) on top of the pre Christmas run up which has been busy.

We are only getting a short break from our full on jobs this year and its been monopolised by DH's family. DH is very well mannered and would never take advantage of others' hospitality like this and foist our dc on an A equivalent in the same circumstances. But hes just saying to let MIL get on with it and look after all 4 children.

Thing is MIL isnt a well woman and I'd feel a cow letting her do that. Dh will probably get involved in sorting it out which is not great as he is totally knackered from overwork.

So not looking to get savaged on here. How do I put this? Do I stay quiet or do I state its all a bit much and personally think its better if the dc go home with the rest of their family.

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Winterdaysarehere · 25/12/2019 21:29

So you are being used and so are your dc?
You are allowing mil to dictate your Christmas...

Yabvu.

PatricksRum · 25/12/2019 21:30

@ZenNudist ah OK! So you're planning on picking up dsis and going home for thr day on the 27th?

VenusTiger · 25/12/2019 21:32

Just go home tomorrow. End of.

VenusTiger · 25/12/2019 21:35

Your sister needs you and your children aren’t pawns to someone else’s kids.
Pick up Dsis and take her back to yours for the night. Don’t go to the party. Tell MIL you’re all knackered and Dsis needs you. She’s your sister.
My PIL open presents really late too Hmm.

SleepingStandingUp · 25/12/2019 21:38

You don't have to do what she tells you.

Oooooooooooooooooooh · 25/12/2019 21:40

You’re putting the party of some random friend of your MIL above your own sister, who is having a mental health crisis?

You DO have a choice. Grow a spine.

Drum2018 · 25/12/2019 22:15

I have to go to the A party
Our children are required to entertain

No to both! Unless MIL has a gun to your head you can actually decline the invite to this impromptu party. Pack up and head home to your own house.

As for you sister, I'd do her a favour and leave her in her flat, as by the sounds of it adding her to MIL's mix will probably make her MH worse. Arrange to see her when you are not under MILs thumb.

Beautiful3 · 25/12/2019 22:27

Go visit sil then go home. Forget about the other days at mils. Just because she has organised something doesnt mean you have to go!.

Ohyesiam · 25/12/2019 22:34

Does this make sense to anyone else? Have I just had to much bubbly ?

ZenNudist · 25/12/2019 22:37

Dsis mental health issues have been off and on for 20 years. She lives about 3.5hrs from my house and 45mins from PIL. In her current mental state its too much for her to travel to my house and back. She needs a break from her highly responsible job and she works over Christmas. Its just practical for her to come to PILs.

PIL are hospitable people and welcome dsis to their house. So we will be entertaining dsis on boxing day at PILs.

When i heard about the A family party I immediately texted dsis to ask what she wanted to do about plans on 27th (at this point I didn't know she was in a bad way). It had only been a vague plan not communicated to PIL. She ignored me. So I didn't see fit to cause an epic stink by insisting PIL cancelled the A party plan and make them host Dsis instead. TBH the A party was presented as a fait accompli. Boxing day is plan B. I will pick her up (90mins driving) she will stay over and get herself home the next day. This is a bit wearing but I figure Christmas is about family and she wants to see the dc. If we didn't do this now we might not see her until next Christmas. We talk often but I only see her once a year at most usually at Christmas.

OK getting distracted from the issue of whether it is CF behaviour to angle for your grandkids to stay at your friend's house and then once youve wangled an invite not have the grace to decline. ?

My issue is less with A (grandparents have some crazy ideas) but surely A's daughter would put her foot down: "oh no I will just take the kids home as the party will be enough fun for young dc" (hers are 7&9 and mine are younger). Would you not feel like it was a bit much to presume on this family until the following day". ???

I would never foist my kids on my parents friends for an entire night. And go home. Especially not after they've hosted all day.

And if I did think it was OK because my mum's friend invited my dc to stay over and my mum's friend is known to be a good host. Would you not still think "oh no Zen and Mr Zen will want a break, they wont want to be dealing with a bunch of over excited kids all night". ?

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FawnDrench · 25/12/2019 22:39

And what's your husband doing in all this?
Seems strangely unmentioned and uninvolved - leave him with his own relatives and concentrate on and provide support to yours.

ZenNudist · 25/12/2019 22:47

@Drum2018 its not an impromptu party. Its booked in since mid Nov. Its just I expect to be able to see my family as well as DH family over Christmas. ILs live 3hrs from our home. MIL has booked family events from 23rd to 28th. The one on 28th is not mandatory but I actually like the people coming to that party plus I want my dc to know the wider family. If you dont meet up at Christmas when do you?

@Winterdaysarehere
"You are allowing mil to dictate your Christmas..."
You are not wrong. I didn't make my usual effort to see them since October as I figured she'd dominated Christmas.

I do get a bit philosophical and think family wont be around forever so should try and spend Christmas at their behest (but MIL much more overbearing than my DPs who tend to visit us rather than expecting us to visit). We do our own thing most of the year.

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flowery · 25/12/2019 22:48

”OK getting distracted from the issue of whether it is CF behaviour to angle for your grandkids to stay at your friend's house and then once youve wangled an invite not have the grace to decline. ?“

If you’ve angled for an invite why would you decline it?!

It is CF, but it only affects you because you choose to let it.

TellMeWhoTheVilliansAre · 25/12/2019 22:49

I think your CF is misguided.

Your mil is cheeky for volunteering you and your children to stay an extra 2 days to entertain a huge crowd.

And you are completely unreasonable for going along with it, and your only problem being A's grandchildren attending and staying over. You mil has invited them to stay, and volunteered you and your children to entertain them.

That's not A's fault, or A's daughter's fault. That's your mother in laws doing and your fault for agreeing to it.

Everyone is stressed. Everyone works hard.

Why are you being such a martyr?

TellMeWhoTheVilliansAre · 25/12/2019 22:56

If these plans were made since Mid November, why has you planned to bring your sister, who suffers with MH issues to your inlaws busy house?

None of what you say makes sense. You're adding lots of unnecessary detail. I can't help but think you enjoy the "inconvenience" of everything and everyone knowing how great you are to drop everything and entertain the troops from mil.

Good luck with that.

ZenNudist · 25/12/2019 22:57

@FawnDrench "what's your husband doing in all this?"
Refused to Facebook A's daughter and suggest that a sleepover is a bad idea (I don't know her very well).
Telling me to stop going on about it when I really really had not even begun to say why it was mental.
Thinks that its MILs circus and MILs monkies and we should just let her get on with it. Which is what we will do although obviously Im going to make sure my younger dc get to bed at a reasonable time and parent my eldest. Hope its not going to be a ballache. As for the morning Im staying out of the way packing until the random extra children have been collected.

OK this is making a very big deal of minor irritantants. Im not that stressed about it. Im just a bit Hmm about people ditching their kids on us. I wouldn't do that.

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LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 25/12/2019 23:00

This all sounds very complex. You invited your family to PILs house because it was more convenient for you. Now they expect something in return. Thus, this expectation you will do what she wants.

Boom45 · 25/12/2019 23:01

If I was A, a long time friend of your MIL, who (I assume) had a history of parties and sleepovers with your MIL and little or no connection to you I don't think I'd feel responsible for your missing out on seeing your family over Christmas. It doesn't sound like you'll be expected to look after these children so why are you focussing on that? It sounds like you're actually annoyed about your entire Christmas break being monopolised by your DH family. And that's got nothing to do with A and her plans she's made with your MIL. You should be annoyed with your DH and your MIL.

flowery · 25/12/2019 23:02

”Thinks that its MILs circus and MILs monkeys and we should just let her get on with it”

Excellent advice. Just go home and leave her to it.

ZenNudist · 25/12/2019 23:04

@TellMeWhoTheVilliansAre

"plans were made since Mid November, why has you planned to bring your sister, who suffers with MH issues to your inlaws busy house?"

Dsis is coming on 26th. The plan to see her on 27th was only how we hoped it would pan out but not possible as MIL and her mate got there first. On the 26th it wont be busy. There will be MIL FIL plus my family. The other family are turning up the next day when dsis has gone home.

Im not enjoying it. But its just one of those family obligation things. Do you not have those? My dps dont make these demands on us either but its always easier with your own DPs compared to ILs isnt it?

Sorry about detail. I hate a dripfeed.

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Drum2018 · 25/12/2019 23:05

I'd say, like many parents of young children, when your MIL offered to take them overnight they just jumped at the chance. They're probably planning lots of noisy shagging and a leisurely lie in given the kids are at a sleepover Xmas Grin

ZenNudist · 25/12/2019 23:05

@flowery cant go home. Am 3 hours away from home. Have another family obligation the next day. Have to stay.

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ZenNudist · 25/12/2019 23:08

Drum - she's divorced no shagging maybe a lie in. What about my lie in!!! Her own mum has her dc all the time so isn't desperate for overnight babysitting.

Im sure if I could talk to her Id be able to nix the idea. But no way of contacting her.

Now I do feel miserable.

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Drum2018 · 25/12/2019 23:09

Im not enjoying it. But its just one of those family obligation things. Do you not have those? My dps dont make these demands on us either but its always easier with your own DPs compared to ILs isnt it?

Let your new year resolution be 'no longer pandering to family' - be it yours or dhs. Do what suits your own family unit. You are in no way obliged to attend family functions if you don't want to, or if it causes any annoyance. It's refreshing to say 'no, it won't suit us' when people expect you to just fall in with their plans.

ZenNudist · 25/12/2019 23:12

@Boom45 sorry you misunderstand me
I dont hold A "responsible for your missing out on seeing [my] family over Christmas."*

I hold her daughter responsible for taking her kids home after a family party, not leaving them there.

I appreciate MIL is mainly to blame in all this.

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