IF this is true, AIBU to be gobsmacked?

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Popped up on my Facebook so for all I know, it could be fake news. BUT if it's not....

I feel shocked and kinda mildly sad about it.

And I know that's probably being unreasonable. Every vote is equal, and all ages have a say.

But... fuck me.

That the attitudes in the country are SO skewed depending on which side of fifty you fall on is worrying. The fact cons would have returned 0 seats in the youngest age bracket makes me wonder what incentive they have to lift a finger for them.

This tweet is not on @ElectionMapsUK. I just checked. You can estimate, but there is no way of knowing for certain because voting is anonymous. But I return to a point I made in a previous thread. It doesn't matter if someone is 18 or 88, they are entitled to vote and there is a good chance they might be around for the next 5 years. It is divisive and wrong to suggest that older people have less right to a vote.

There's a saying, "If you're young and vote conservative, you have't a heart, if you're old and vote labour, you haven't a head". As others have said, views change as we go through life. Having said that though, we all voted labour in our household and always have. Can't understand also why many people are so insulting to Corbyn. I've seen people calling him "evil" and "heinous". He came across to me as a sincere person trying to establish a fairer, more balanced society. Oh well, I just hope Boris will moderate his views now and make his party into a less extreme one nation Conservative party. I think he will.

ususal bs believed by the naive and wanting to blame everyone else, a bit of a toddler tantrum.

It's well established that people become more conservative with age. This article explains that it's due to older brains being less able to process new information, meaning that we become less open to new ideas and social change.
www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/mr-personality/201410/why-are-older-people-more-conservative

Also it makes sense to me in this way - life is harder when you're younger as you have less money and you're dealing with challenges for the first time, so you easily empathise with other people struggling in society too (e.g. people on low incomes, disabled, etc) and will vote for policies that will improve the lives of all even if it means you as an individual have to pay slightly more tax (not a big deal when you're not earning much anyway).

Whereas when you're older you have worked hard for decades to get to where you are and now want things to stay the same (e.g. you may feel threatened by immigrants changing british culture) and you fear losing what you've got (e.g. paying higher taxes), & you may think that you got here without much help from the government so now feel like that help isn't needed for others either.

I looked this up and on the full image the date is 2018, so I assume it’s from data int eh last election.

@Henrysmycat "As you are now, so once was I, As I am now, so will you be" Just remember that when you make those kind of comments - & your remarks show you as being a worse bigot than any (if we believe your comments) of the people you reported. Sweeping generalizations & comments like that really make me wonder about the reliability of the vote - except I rather think your reports are outright lies & you never had this role. Whenever I have voted I have noticed that the one conversation that never happens is people discussing how they vote or who they vote for or what they think of the opposition because wouldn't that be illegal? (& I have been voting for along time in various places). Lots of inaccurate "proofs" & comments on here. I would point out that many extreme right political members are younger people rather than older ones. Also I haven't been asked how I vote or noticed anybody outside asking how I vote for the last 3 votes at least.

speaks volumes soli as i said delieved bu the naive. op can feel gobsmacked that she and plenty of otheres no doubt were was taken in.

You know that every time you vote, there’s a number on your voting slip that they write next to your name on their list. That is how they work out what age voted for what party. Not sure they could compile that data so quickly mind.

What shocks me is the number of idiots that get their 'news' from Facebook.

For fucks sake!

Your vote IS NOT ANONYMOUS it's laughable that people think it is! Your voter number is put on you ballot paper. Your voter number matches to your details.

Liverpool had a problem where 48 people were given the wrong ballot paper voiding their vote the polling station were trying to get hold of these voters so that they could recast their vote before the 10pm deadline because they could trace the voters from their voter number.

Voting never has nor has claimed to be anonymous. Why are people so naive? 🤦‍♂️

PlushPlush how fucking insulting, there is also wisdom and the benefit of experience that comes with age that you conveniently ignore!

And Henrysmycat you are an offensive ageist bigot.

I can't believe the naive, immature bollocks being spouted on here

I think we should dispense with the notion that age brings wisdom when it comes to voting. There are as many old idiots as there are young idiots.

It's interesting, or perhaps ironic, that before the election there was a lot in the media about masses of young and first-time voters registering to vote. Which indicated to me, and to many others, a big boost to the Labour vote.
So what happened?

I'm no fan of Boris, but if a sizeable cohort did vote for him, I can imagine that - like it or not - they were perhaps swayed by his air of cheerful optimism.

Votes are anonymous? But they are not. Each ballot paper is linked to your name by a number. That’s what I see anyway. When you collect the ballot paper they write the number next to your name on the sheet. I’m not suggesting anyone goes through it all afterwards but I’ve always been puzzled by this. Anyone know more?

My age was not on my voting paper, it was also anonymous

Of course it’s made up, where’s the but on the ballot paper that asks for your DOB

It is fake, votes are anonymous so how would they know the ages?

Voting isn't as anonymous as people think it is

While the ballot paper itself doesn't ask for your DOB, your ballot paper number is written on a sign in sheet beside a number which relates to your details on the register so with the ballot paper, sign in sheet & register (where your DOB is) it's actually quite possible that they can figure out exactly how each individual voted - granted it would take a lot longer than 24hrs but it can be done.

I'm 31 and if anything I've become more left leaning the older I've become.

I've learnt that life shits on you sometimes, things go wrong, the unexpected happens. and I believe there should be a safety net for everyone when they become vulnerable, in order to help them support themselves again. I believe in a welfare state for everyone who needs it, whether that be a short term thing or for the long term. The more fortunate should help the less well off.

Healthcare should be equal, education should be equal. It shouldn't depend on wealth.

I cannot see a circumstance I would ever vote for the tories as I age because those are my principles.

I'm not sure how they would collate the figures. Do they ask ages at exit polls. Anecdotally this doesn't ring true for me. I work as a teacher and many of the students said if they could they'd vote Conservative and although there does appear to be a left wing bias amongst teachers there were a surprising amount of cons voters who are pretty young too... And that is in an area that used to be Labour..for a long time.

I guess you've also got to think of the constituency versus people thing too. Perhaps the numbers are more marginal when it comes to comparing ages. A number would be interesting to see as well as the seats gained

I cannot see a circumstance I would ever vote for the tories as I age because those are my principles.

And that is fine, it is also fine for someone else to have different principals and lean more center right.

Neither is wrong, neither is inherently better

Rather what side of 25. I wonder what that’s about, not leaving university and getting a job surely?

This is the breakdown for thursdays election btw, people getting stuff from facebook is laughable.

lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Q2.-Party-by-demogs-no-location-768x676.jpg

No idea if this map is accurate, but wouldn’t be remotely surprised if it was.
Which only cements my belief that the over 70’s should not be allowed to vote, in the same way that under 18’s aren’t. People who are likely to have under-developed/waning cognitive skills are not people we want making important decisions.

Yes, there's a number on the ballot paper that's entered by your name, but TBH there does have to be some means of reference in case of fraud.

You still don't have to take any form of ID or your polling card to the polling station - this is the only precaution there is. I doubt very much that anyone goes through many thousands of names and cross-references them with whatever databases they have.

Personally I'm very glad that we don't have electronic voting, as they do in the US - I'd be much more worried about that being open to 'interference.'.

Very few 18-25 year olds read the Daily Mail or Express but millions of over 65s do. I think the right wing press has a big influence on older people.