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IF this is true, AIBU to be gobsmacked?

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themental · 14/12/2019 04:29

Popped up on my Facebook so for all I know, it could be fake news. BUT if it's not....

I feel shocked and kinda mildly sad about it.

And I know that's probably being unreasonable. Every vote is equal, and all ages have a say.

But... fuck me.

That the attitudes in the country are SO skewed depending on which side of fifty you fall on is worrying. The fact cons would have returned 0 seats in the youngest age bracket makes me wonder what incentive they have to lift a finger for them.

IF this is true, AIBU to be gobsmacked?
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ACouchOfOnesOwn · 14/12/2019 11:49

Since you've now admitted it's inaccurate and over a year old, perhaps you could ask MN to change the title of your post? Or you could ask MN to pull the thread since it's based on lies.
You know, if you're actually interested in politics and debate and not just a gf trying to stir up ageist animosity.

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Lexplorer · 14/12/2019 12:06

Can't believe what I'm reading. Stop generalising by age! And as for mooting stopping 65+year olds voting?? So someone who is still working full-time, still has adult children living at home, struggling to pay bills etc is to be disenfranchised? Why not just euthanise at 60? Some people are never happy. Oh it's not MY fault it's old people, young people, anyone but MEEEE! And breathe....

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CaptainMyCaptain · 14/12/2019 12:21

If you are going to stop over 65s from voting (no more voting for me then, that's one less for Labour) then why not have an intelligence test. The number of incredibly stupid people being I've heard being interviewed on the street recently astounds me.

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mindproject · 14/12/2019 12:26

It's probably fake news.

One thing we do know for sure is that most inner cities voted Labour, and a few voted Lib Dem. They also voted remain.

So what does that tell you about the fake news that the poor voted for Brexit?

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Seeline · 14/12/2019 12:33

Buffering - I honestly don't know. I don't think it could be legal. I have been involved in many elections and have never come across any regulations that would allow for that. There are procedures that have to be followed in instances where a person turns up to vote and the register shows that they appear to have already voted, and those procedures do not involve rummaging through the (sealed) ballot box(es) to find their voting papers.

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Skinnychip · 14/12/2019 12:34

When you give your name, they allocate the voting slip number next to your name.....but I wouldnt have thought they could extrapolate the data and link the form to your name/date of birth that quickly?

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Seeline · 14/12/2019 12:37

Buffering actually in your example, they would just need to be contacted off the electoral register which is a public document. Yes - their incorrect voting paper could technically be removed from the count although how each one was found I can't imagine. But the anonymity of the vote would remain as the incorrect voting papers would have been void surely?

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MummytoCSJH · 14/12/2019 12:38

I don't think she did @lowlandLucky since 16 year olds can't vote Grin I've seen this graphic before and thought it was based on yougov polls? Sorry if someone has already said this.

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Seeline · 14/12/2019 12:38

Skinny they can't - no one has access to that information without a court order.

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BunsyGirl · 14/12/2019 12:41

People change their political persuasions as they get older, particularly those who have gone through higher education. It’s very easy to be on the hard left when you’ve got nothing to lose. However, paying tax, owning your own home etc. focuses the mind somewhat.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/12/2019 12:49

the over 70’s should not be allowed to vote, in the same way that under 18’s aren’t. People who are likely to have under-developed/waning cognitive skills are not people we want making important decisions

There's a slight problem there though, in that whenever teens are expected to take responsibility for something, someone will insist "their brains aren't fully formed until 25 so their thinking can't be expected to be fully adult". In fact, on MN at least, it's almost become an article of faith

So would you be happy with the mimimum voting age to be set at 25?

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Bluntness100 · 14/12/2019 12:50

It's like fake news from 18 as well. But he did get a lot of the youth vote in the last election due to the bullshit tuition fee promises he made then.

This time it's all cheap train fares, free Wi-fi, working four day weeks and the like. Except the proper grown ups aren't that gullible.

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Tippexy · 14/12/2019 13:29

Once more, for the hard of reading:

Your vote cannot be ‘matched up’ to you without a court order. Councils do not trawl through the voting papers to match up numbers. This is illegal.

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NonnoMum · 14/12/2019 13:34

My 75 year old dad voted Leave in the referendum. Or Remain. He can't remember.

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BarbedBloom · 14/12/2019 13:41

I read an article a while back that actually said that there isn't the shift to Conservative there used to be as people get older. People are more likely to hold their political ideals for life now. It also suggested that if this remains true then the conservatives could be in trouble once their older voters start dying off - though it noted that while there was a higher conservative mindset with older voters, this didn't mean a proportion of younger voters wouldn't vote conservative either. It was really interesting.

From my friends, both Conservative voters and otherwise, their children seem very politically active and almost all were Green or Labour, much to the disgust of some of my friends. Grin Their biggest concern is climate change rather than Brexit though.

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Bufferingkisses · 14/12/2019 13:48

The BBC was carrying an info graphic showing vote split by age for this election. Whilst the one the op posted may be out of date the information is available.

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Pcosmama · 14/12/2019 17:10

@lowlandLucky no she didn't, you have to be 18 to vote.

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ferrier · 15/12/2019 15:09

Speak for yourself @plushplush but all except one of my grandparents and my parents is/was more than capable of considering manifestos and casting votes after due deliberation.
The other suffered dementia and was in a nursing home. She was a life long Labour supporter and I'm sure, if given the opportunity, she would have voted the same way - and with much greater thought than large swathes of the population who just follow certain sections of the media and vote accordingly.

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TabbyMumz · 15/12/2019 15:37

It's clearly nonsense. The election was on Thursday for goodness sake. There is no way anyone on this earth has gone through all the voting slips, matched them with the info (which was shredded), and worked thus out. Plus I know loads of 18 to 24's who voted conservative.

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