To ask Tories what their prize is?

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So many of them are gloating, bollox about 'lefty tears' and 'suck it up buttercup'.

While a friend of mine is shaking she's so scared about what will happen to her disabled child.

So, what's the prize? Now you've won?

Of course. Everyone else who didn’t vote Tory is a “Corbynista” and they all go around calling everyone else cunts. That’s a true fact because people on Mumsnet say so. Noted.

Not all of them. But it's been pretty common.

@PinkCrayon

That's what I'm getting at!

I genuinely don't understand what people are celebrating?

There was a torie candidate being investigated for racism also where I used to live, I had people on my Facebook so proud and happy they had 'won' , can you imagine how alienating that must have been for the people of colour. Bloody awful.

I genuinely don't understand what people are celebrating?

The party they voted for winning the election with a massive majority?

But only Jezza had scumbags at his final election rally chanting Hamas songs about the eradication of Israel

I saw that footage, it was pretty shocking

I'm really interested! What was the alternative other than labour?

Not bashing anyone's choice, but all these Tory bashers, how is Corbyn better than Boris?

@PinkCrayon can you imagine how alienating it'd be to Jewish people if an anti-semite was voted in?

Not getting into massive debt under Labour is their prize.
Usual pattern is Labour gets in, over spends, Conservatives get in and gave to cut services as a result of Labour's previous over spend. It's a vicious cycle.

It’s not gloating - it’s cheering that the person you voted for won. And would Labour have celebrated differently? Would they have been low key and stood there po-faced if they had won? Of course not. Boris has been the PM for the last few months, bar the last few weeks when Parliament has been dissolved so why is your friend shaking now? Nothing’s changed. She sounds unhinged.

I think it is a great thing that the people of the UK absolutely refused point blank to vote in a government policy that has so much anti semitism at the heart of it. Labour campaigners heard it over and over again on doorsteps in the apparent heartlands; people voted labour all their lives but they couldn’t this time because of Corbyn and his attitude towards the anti-semites in his party.

Labour voters (the ones who don’t bang on endlessly about how morally superior they are to anyone who thinks or votes differently) rejected a party for very, very important reasons. I don’t think it was to do with their manifesto, it was their dithering on a referendum result and their staggering attitude to Jews. And those who honour democracy and egalitarianism won’t vote for a representative who jumps up and down on those things.

This is why the Tories got these borrowed votes. Not because they think Johnson is so amazing (even he bloody knows that) but because Labour lost sight of what’s important.

*vote in a government. No idea where policy came from.

Their prize will be the ‘proles’ (that’s how ordinary people were described by a group of Torys I overheard) tugging at their forelocks not realising that they’ve been sold a pup,
The Tories don’t give a shiny shit about Andy and Carol down the road as long as they get richer off the back of them. They‘re going to be the ones most affected by the next five years (I’m looking at you, my just ’over the nmw, chronically sick’ niece).
If we were still in the Uk we’d be better off under the Tories than labour and can afford their policies, but my family still there who have voted for them really can’t. I agree that Corbyn isn’t a leader and really should have handed over the reins to someone more palatable, but it’s going to be a tough five years.
I’m so grateful I don’t have to live there.
The gloating and smugness within Tory hq must be palpable today.

As a Conservative voter I'm celebrating the fact that the country won't be run by financial incompetents or lead into a marxist state. Everyone standing with their hand out expecting free money from a Labour government will have to work for it themselves. It also means Brexit will finally happen.

That was prize enough for me to open a bottle of champagne - cheers!

Weird I went to school 80/90's I don't recall it being shit? In fact I actually think my school was better than the primaries now and I went to the local estate one
Sorry your friend is scared but she needs to stop reading scare stories published today mainly by random people getting riled up because they lost today

@TheDarkPassenger but Tories have only increased national debt per GDP in the last decade? Not sure what their great claim to fiscal responsibility actually is...

I’ve seen a lot of that too OP, but it’s just the nature of what sort of cross section of society you engage with. Most of my Facebook friends are either middle class lefties or uneducated Tories (I.e. they’re people we’ve met in the pub or know through family, not met through any professional or educational connection). There is a lot of this strange smugness but there isn’t any point engaging because they don’t have the knowledge to talk meaningfully beyond “Corbyn is scary” or “haha Diane Abbott made that mistake about numbers”.

My boss is an incredibly intelligent Tory Remainer and is very sad about the whole thing, but they are multi-millionaire land owners and still voted Tory. We do have some interesting and respectful discourse and she would never gloat or be childish about election outcomes.

Am sure some people also only know vitriolic Labour supporters, etc. It’s just who you know.

How on earth have Labour supporters forgotten the debt Labour drove the country into by its extreme spending? And thusly the delightfully gleeful note they left when exiting Government last time? "Sorry, there's no money left. Good luck!". It seems people weren't stupid this time and saw straight through Labour's insane this will be free this will be free that will be free everything will be free 10 year policies, none of which were promised into immediacy. So even if your sick niece had voted them in, they were saying "by 2030" so she wouldn't have seen any of it any time soon anyway!

Most of my Facebook friends are either middle class lefties or uneducated Tories (I.e. they’re people we’ve met in the pub or know through family, not met through any professional or educational connection). There is a lot of this strange smugness but there isn’t any point engaging because they don’t have the knowledge to talk meaningfully beyond “Corbyn is scary” or “haha Diane Abbott made that mistake about numbers”

I would really love this election to start to put paid to this kind of spiteful intellectual snobbery.

I'm pleased because perhaps labour will get their shit together and actually become a decent party again.

Our economy won't be utterly destroyed.

The GRA reforms will be kicked into the long grass so my dementia suffering MIL won't have to accept intimate care from anyone other than a natal woman.

To provide for the least well off in society we need a strong economy, Labour would have utterly destroyed it. We need to keep an eye on how many people are using the services provided, we need controlled immigration.

FWIW, I spoiled my ballot paper because, after reading the manifestos and attending hustings I couldn't in good conscience vote for any of them. I do however accept that the conservative party are the least worst option at the moment. I desperately hope that this changes and this is the labour party's Micheal foot moment and by the next election we get someone like John Smith leading them. I unfortunately do not expect it though.

There are some truly awful comments on Facebook. Including vile comments about immigrants, and suggesting that remainer MPs should be hung. I report them whenever I see them but an awful lot get left.

WrongKindOfFace, Perhaps you need some new FB friends.
I have no one on FB who I don't know personally and they're all decent people. The only time I broke that rule and had a friend of a friend who broke my unwritten "no politics on FB" rule, I deleted them.

And the only awful comments I've seen on MN since Thursday have been from Labour supporters calling people "vile cunts."