Irish racism in England

[angell84]

I am shocked. I am half English, half Irish. My Irish mum lived in England for a long time, gave birth to us children there with her English husband, and then moved back to Ireland.

The reason that she always gave me for returning to Ireland, was that, "she could not take the nastiness to her anymore". She described one incident of many to me: she went to my brother's primary teacher in England, and said that he had lost something, he must have been six at the time, and the teacher said to her , "sure what do you expect - he is half Irish".

I always thought of it in an abstract way, I never really understood what she meant. Until I spent quite a long time in the U.K this year.

I was absolutely shocked at the hatred and nastiness, and calling Irish people stupid.

How can it be possible? The U.K stole alot of Ireland's land, committed mass genocide during the famine, eradicated the Irish language,

And yet instead of apologising, many people are going around calling Irish people stupid.

Isn't it nearly unbelievable? It would be like a German going up to a Jew and calling them stupid. That it was their fault , thhat everything happened the way it did.

I am really shocked

Braces are part of the health insurance package in America, if it is part of the offer why not, most people in America have health insurance through their job.
Though most teens have extensive dental work in Ireland.
I'm saving towards DD's now she's 11. They average around €6000.

They are very good though, my dd1 had massive work and has perfect teeth - once your dd has the work done make sure she wears her retainer!

Donegal was the only county in Ireland who voted against gay marriage
It was Roscommon/South Leitrim

Mine are almost 12 and thankfully seem to have gotten their dads teeth. They are not perfect but they are straight and not crowded like mine were. I think though once they hit about 14 they may request braces for that perfect look. I may be seeing the credit union for it!!!

Ok, well they were the only county to vote against abortion then.

@BlowandGo I feel like I'm back home with your sense of humour! Here can be so uptight! Get the nippers' teeth done. You don't want them being mistaken for Irish when they go abroad.....

When my dd was having her teeth done we got tax back at the higher rate (which kicks in fairly low) but they cut that to 20 percent. (Claim Med 2!)

If there's one thing as bad it's being called Irish.
You wanna see the West coast of Ireland with a slap, do ya?

With their strawberry blonde locks, blue eyes and... well actually they got my sallowish skin not his pasty louth stuff, they could only be taken for oirish dontchaknow. That said I grew up thinking I was Italian cos my own 'strawberry blonde, not ginger or red' locks were the same as the Italians across the road!

To other posters, why does it matter who voted for Marriage equality (gay marriage i ask ye) or Female bodily autonomy (abortion) in our referendums? The point is that the majority of us voted yes and as a nation of referenda holders, voters and experts you lot in the British place should have listened to us when we told you that yours was not a good idea but ye dont listen and now - Brexit. Meh.

The only thing I’ve really encountered is people whinging to me about immigration while I’m sat there thinking ‘you know my name, it’s pretty obvious I’m from Irish immigrants 😂’
And the odd potato joke, that doesn’t bother me.

I did get called hitler at school and people hailing me and marching goose step style around because someone found out I’m half German. Bizarre. It’s was an almost all white school, we had like one Bangladeshi lad and a black Brit in the whole bloody school. I’m glad I work and live in a more diverse area now!

I think the GB referendum voters didn't grasp it was a real thing, not an opinion poll. The NI voters have more experience with referendums.Or referenda.

The NI voters have more experience with referendums.Or referenda

Nor do they have the extreme level of arrogance that the English has - left over from the ‘good old days’ of the British Empire... possibly also why Scotland largely voted remain too.
I think maybe England is about to experience Karma in the form of payback for all the atrocities it has committed...

I am not a supporter of NI rejoining Ireland but I have to say at this point I think they should lobby for it if scotland are to have a second referendum. I do really think if Scotland had a choice to leave the UK and join just Ireland and leave them in the EU then it would be perfect cos we LOVE the scottish here in Ireland (well we love them to say Murder, Crackers and Knickers when we are drunk so it must mean we love them) and Scottish people have a similar sense of humour to us which always helps. Mind you I have been lobbying (mentally) for us to take Liverpool over for some years now too and nobody is listening. I might need to make a Dail appointment and see what auld Leo can do for us ;)

What referendums have NI held?

Apart from the Good Friday Agreement one?

I quite fancy having Liverpool too lol.

There was a 1973 border one (I had to google that!) and there was a joining the eec one, as well as Good Friday. We do love the Scots, It's true!
I know there were various English people around me saying they could have another referendum if they got the wrong result at the EU one, ha ha that's what happens in Ireland...
My boss as thrilled with the NI election results as he thinks it brings a united Ireland closer. I'm not sure what the economic and social ramifications would be. Unity with Liverpool might be easier...

Well of course us in Ireland cannot actually afford ourselves currently let alone the counties that are pissing off bojo and the clown needs relinquishing bt morally we would take back our six counties now if only to piss off your clown, sorry I meant borris. it could be a discussion whicjh would help BJ out of the ditch he never seemed to fall into and it really would make a lot of people happy but just cannot ascertain who.

@quickstep I used to play a similar game anytime I was in the US. I'm irish and there is definitely an irish look. It's the shape of the face and complexion mostly. They are quite strong genes. I'm usually right up to and including 2nd generation irish.

Plus we'd get nicer cakes and traybakes... even the protestant traybakes in the deep south are of a poor standard.

I suppose the war in the North (troubles, violence, terrorism, whatever you choose to call it) sullies Ireland's reputation.

Huh? I think you'll find bringing your army in to police a civil rights movement, firing on your own citizens, ending up with a civil war, suspending habeus corpus, and being found guilty of using torture against your own citizens sullies the reputation of the United Kingdom where those things happened. Not Ireland in which none of those things happened.

I really wish the UK equivalent of a department of education would create a Facing History and Ourselves programme for its colonial past and actually teach it. Imagine a United Kingdom in which people had a grasp of their immediate past?

Hear, hear @pallisers.

Pallisers. People presume Ireland is at war/was at war. Nobody wants to be associated with that.

I'm Irish btw if that makes things clearer for you...

When we mention being Irish, we mean Irish, not Northern Irish. But people often mistake the two or presume they're the same country.

Pallisers. People presume Ireland is at war/was at war. Nobody wants to be associated with that.

Yes i do understand the misconceptions of historical fact of the British and others. But they are misconceptions.

I would expect a UK person to have some basic knowledge of the recent history of their nation whereas I wouldn't judge a Dane or an Australian or a Japanese person for not knowing what exactly went on in Northern Ireland during the civil war.

I am also Irish. Middle class educated catholic if that helps.

Oh you mean you're a West Brit? Ye, we've a few of those.