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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ask Tory voters what I do now.

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GailCindy · 13/12/2019 11:21

I have a son who has SEND issues. I am trained as a senior nursery practitioner and have done a lot of courses to back up my college NVQs so I can look after children with quite severe disabilities in a range of settings but I like nurseries. On paper I could get a job for about 25k quite easily.

My son is 14 and has SEND issues. I worked full time until he was 12 and half way in year 7 when it became impossible to work and be a mother to him. Over the past 3-4 years, his support in school has dwindled so he now gets 10% of what is on his EHCP and none of it is 1v1. It is all in small groups which is better than nothing but not if it is only for 2 of 25+ periods he has in a week. My son is not violent or disruptive in the usual way. He will become very anxious and have panic attacks if he feels overwhelmed in any way by his surroundings or work. This sometimes mean he will cry or become very withdrawn and unable to sit in lessons. Rarely he will explode but he wont hit other people. It will be closer to self harming. Also, for reasons related to his ASD, my son goes through uniform/clothes/shoes much faster than other kids his age. Quite a bit of his DLA goes on uniform where I buy at least one item a month. Often 2 items. Plus other clothes.

They wont let him take his phone to school. I was part of several parents across the country who tried to protest these rules locally and nationally but the education minister backed the schools with these rules. My son has to travel alone to and from school because I work* for a few hours per day. He can become overwhelmed by something unpredictable happening so not having any contact (not even by phone box as he cannot carry money) on his way to and from school is terrifying. Plus they issue same day detentions for up to an hour so I never know when he is leaving school. Same for a club or event. The Xmas auditions ran 1hour past time until 630pm and they did not tell parents so we were all wondering where our kids were. Nobody answering school phones and of course we cannot call the kids.

These two things with school always ringing me and him needing to be able to contact me means I cannot do my job. We are not allowed phones in the nursery and it is not practical for the school to ring the office as much as they try and contact me which can be every day.

I had a partner but we recently split because of money issues. We couldn't afford to be together legally and it is too hard to maintain separate homes and finances and feel like a couple. That is a friend with benefits.

A special school might be better for my son and I thought as much from year 7 but guess what? Cuts mean that because my son can do his work alright he isnt eligible for a special school. One man from LEA told me that special schools are for kids with brain damage in wheelchairs now and not kids who can write and read. All of those are moved into mainstream he told me.

So the cuts mean that my son has to go to the only school with autism unit which is defunct due to lack of funding but people have the knowledge of what should be done at least. However he gets no support there so they'll regularly need me to get him. Lack of funding also means that he cannot go to a special school because they are now for people more disabled than him.

All of these things mean I can only work 3 hours a day because the only feasible job I could find that just happens to be in my field was to do the mornings in a nursery as a NVQ level 2 employee. I meet him when I can but it would cost me £15 a week to do so unless I walked there which would take an hour out of the other things that need doing. Therefore I only meet him when it combines with some other task which makes the bus fare worthwhile. I still can't work in the afternoons though because I have to be "on call" for him. If he needs to be collected which he often does, even if it is at home time, they will not let him leave alone distressed or in a cab. So either me,his dad,or my recent ex has to collect him. His dad lives 150 miles away. My recent ex had to work all the hours God sends to provide for us all (he has kids himself). So it is me.

MY UC housing allowances does not cover my housing costs by £150 so that comes out of our living expenses. That's because the HLA is low, we are in private accommodation with no chance of local social housing for years and we need to live somewhere he can easily get to the places he needs to get to alone. This independence frankly means that he is more likely to put money back in society at some point. Moving would set us back and the nationwide shortage of services means that moving somewhere cheap and rural would mean he wouldn't get even the support he gets now.

Long story not so short we live on 100 pound a month ( including his DLA) after I've paid to not be evicted and to keep in contact with each other. That includes food, travel for me, clothes, treats, replacement furniture, everything. The only luxury we have according to budgeting sites is wifi but really my son would never pass his GCSEs if he didnt have good internet at home. Streaming off of a phone to laptop does not work well enough to access all the complex websites and programmes he has to use just to do compulsory homework. Good GSCEs means he will more likely earn money and pay taxes.

His dad gives CM but considering he has 6 dependents in his home, has bipolar and works "part time" according to them, it is barely enough for my son to have some pocket money for the trips he takes out with a social group of local SEND kids and the occasional treat related to his hobby which I use to get him to do stuff that he doesnt want to do and likely wont get support doing anyway because of the cuts. I mean things like completing assessments and exams. They freak him out big time.

I know this is pathetic and long but honestly AIBU to ask what do I do?

Every turn the Tories have cut off our options. I haven't bought a pair of knickers since last Xmas and they were from Primark and I'm literally praying someone buys me some this year because they are ripped and off colour. That is my life now. I'd love to go back to the job I trained so hard for given that I had a shit family who abused me and stopped me finishing school but the support just isn't there for me to leave my son. What do we do when BJ will just take more and more away and make it even harder for people like me who want to work but can't with such shit public services?

OP posts:
thefluffysideofgrey · 13/12/2019 18:48

Labour would have funded education-including SEND issues so that the OP wouldn't get called from school all the time and she could work more hours.

Xenia · 13/12/2019 18:54

45, what kind of teacher? Mky son drives a deluivery van and earns over £23k. His job as a postman earned the same. Why not become a postman instead then and you would have less marking to do too?

Alsohuman · 13/12/2019 18:55

Oh Xenia, you haven’t got a clue, have you?

Xenia · 13/12/2019 18:58

I know what my son earns and I asked why if the teacher earns £20k she doesn't move to a slightly higher paid job which I am sure she would be qualified to do surely?

Sandaled · 13/12/2019 18:59

£20k is below the starting pay for a teacher though, unless an unqualified teacher or on a route into teaching. Not to be inflammatory and I know the pay is not great, especially as it stagnates after a few years; but if you are in the UK on 20 then please report them.

Xenia · 13/12/2019 19:03

I suspect she doesn't work full time but that is her choice - if yo don't work full time you usualy have less money and get fwer promotions. I have worked full time without a break since 1983 including when I had babies (had 2 weeks off for each baby). I pay far far too much tax with no hope of the Tories reducing the obscene upper tax rate amounts sadly. One reason they won as they are a fairly high spend and high tax Tory party at the moment. I see no prospect of tax cuts. I think about 33.3% (current basic rate tax and NI) is about right if we cannot afford a reduction to 20%. Nearly 50% is a disincentive to work.

StrangeLookingParasite · 13/12/2019 19:08

you choose to bring a child into this world..it falls on you to provide for him. Not anyone else.

Nice. Hmm

Alte · 13/12/2019 19:14

Sorry OP, but we voted for the government that's right for us, not you.

gamerchick · 13/12/2019 19:19

you choose to bring a child into this world..it falls on you to provide for him. Not anyone else

Yeah because people actively choose to have disabled kids don't they? Hmm

Lot of dickhead posts on this thread.

Livelovebehappy · 13/12/2019 19:21

Yes labour might have provided more money for you and your son, but not long term - 10 years of a labour government would mean your SEN adult son would probably be in an even worse situation because they would have taken our country into so much debt there would be no support financially or physically to give him.

StrangeLookingParasite · 13/12/2019 19:26

where should be get the money to better fund educational support for disabled children? Where would you like the country to take that from? UC, Pensions, NHS, social services, public services??? Who gets the cut?

How about starting with the magic £1billion they found for the DUP? They seem to have some kind of magic money tree for the things they want, they can start there.

Sorry OP, but we voted for the government that's right for us, not you.

Wow, that is some really bare-faced selfishness. I would be ashamed to have said it.

PepePig · 13/12/2019 19:28

Some really cunty people on this thread. Jesus Christ.

PepePig · 13/12/2019 19:31

@StrangeLookingParasite

The worst thing about that DUP money is not one person in NI has seen it. No idea what it ended up getting stashed away with. We have one of the worst suicide rates in the UK and the help for anyone in need is... zero. Our economy is shot.

They're all as bad as each other Angry

gamerchick · 13/12/2019 19:33

Hopefully, there will be a huge rebound to labour in the 2024 GE

Yeah but will there be an election? Isn't there an item in the manifesto to get rid of the fixed term parliamentary act. Does that mean he could say no to another election?

I don't know much about it though.

PepePig · 13/12/2019 19:33

@Alte

I'll keep your username in mind. I hope over the next 5 years I don't catch you complaining about the NHS, etc. You better hope you stay in your job, you don't get ill and nothing happens to any of your family members. Because don't you be expecting help.

You voted for it, remember.

Chloemol · 13/12/2019 19:35

Lots have it tough for one ( or more) reasons. They don’t go blaming it on how people voted. I have family members in this predicament, with assessments that took away money, we appealed and got it back

It was made tougher because of the piss takers out there, so blame them.

Get tougher with the school, if he is entitled to 1to 1 get it for him, the school would have had the money for that, so that’s the schools fault, not a Tory voter

A Tory voter can’t be held responsible for the fact your child has difficulties, or that you have broken relationships behind you, right that your child’s partner has six dependants so can’t give you more

Others manage

Grasspigeons · 13/12/2019 19:36

The country cant really afford not to educate disabled children. How are they supposed to get a job without an education.

Thelnebriati · 13/12/2019 19:39

where should be get the money

I can find £66 billion if that helps? Thats how much domestic violence costs the UK every year. Find a way to stop domestic violence and free it up.
We could actually chase up tax dodgers.
We could stop putting mothers in prison and their kids in care, for non violent offences caused by poverty or coercive control.

Fucket · 13/12/2019 19:51

I echo the op who wants to know why your child’s father doesn’t want to help his own child. Surely your ire would be best directed in that direction.

I don’t know your relationship history, your financial history or if yiur child was planned, but a lot of conservative voters place a lot of value in marriage, maybe you were married and you are divorced. Being married makes it harder for men to run away from their financial commitments (but not impossible). Conservatives Traditionally don’t like having to pay taxes so that the state can take the place of feckless fathers.

However I don’t like how they want to blame the mums for poor choice of father. As often men bail out once the SEN gets diagnosed and abandon their child. I would like to see men being held responsible for their children, and make it a criminal offence of child neglect for deliberately avoiding paying their fair share.

PepePig · 13/12/2019 19:52

"Others manage"

Really? Are these the expectations people genuinely have? We should just "manage". What about having a government that fully funds supportive education? I think that should be a given.

Parents with SN kids often have:

  • less money as one/both partners cannot work
  • less money as parents who act as carers are paid a frankly embarrassing amount of "money" a month
  • less opportunities for themselves as they can't work/can only work reduced hours
  • less flexibility to work due to frequent hospital appointments/stays
  • typically have more out goings as SN kids may damage things during meltdowns. TVs, windows, etc. Special equipment is extortionate as well.
  • less/no time to themselves as finding a babysitter isn't possible. It needs to be carefully arranged respite care/someone properly trained, which is tough to find. A child's dependency on routine may also make this impossible.
  • no social life as they don't have the spare time or freedom to go see friends. Usually ends up with parents becoming secluded.
  • much more likely to become depressed as every bit of extra support is a battle lasting years. No one cares/can help. Parents often have jump through every single hoop just to get one thing sorted
  • cannot go on holiday easily/at all. Will be carers for their children often until they're in a care home themselves. They never get a break.

And this is based on two parents. It's even worse if it's a single parent with no familial support.

Some of the posters on this thread should be fucking ashamed. You haven't got a fucking clue. How dare you blame people for their hardships when no one could predict having a SN child. Vile.

rwalker · 13/12/2019 20:04

TBH it's down to money and anyone with common sense can see labour well over promises with no way of being able to afford what they were promising .
I'm almost sure they knew they went going to get in so it would be a case of" look at what you could of won".

TheFormidableMrsC · 13/12/2019 20:05

OP, you are claiming Carer’s Allowance aren’t you? Have you bent to Citizens Advice for a chat about your circumstances? It would be a good port of call. You have my utmost sympathy, my situation is similar to yours. Good luck.

KTheGrey · 13/12/2019 20:09

"Others manage"
And of course, homeless people, and ill people, and kids with SEN, and people on Disability who are declared fit to work after they die "manage". It's just that an increased number manage by dying.
You have to be spectacularly stupid to believe that provision for ordinary people is no different under Tory and Labour governments. There was nobody decent to vote for at this election - but voting Tory was a vote for foodbanks and undermining the NHS. How I hope to be proved wrong - but if some of the posts on this thread are anything to go by the UK will be a cruel place to live for the next five years or so.

IrisAtwood · 13/12/2019 20:19

@DishingOutDone I nicked the Bisto cube from a hard working family while they were doing 18 hour shifts for a shilling an hour.

IrisAtwood · 13/12/2019 20:20

The homeless ‘manage’. I mean they’re still breathing aren’t they?

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