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GailCindy · 13/12/2019 11:21

I have a son who has SEND issues. I am trained as a senior nursery practitioner and have done a lot of courses to back up my college NVQs so I can look after children with quite severe disabilities in a range of settings but I like nurseries. On paper I could get a job for about 25k quite easily.

My son is 14 and has SEND issues. I worked full time until he was 12 and half way in year 7 when it became impossible to work and be a mother to him. Over the past 3-4 years, his support in school has dwindled so he now gets 10% of what is on his EHCP and none of it is 1v1. It is all in small groups which is better than nothing but not if it is only for 2 of 25+ periods he has in a week. My son is not violent or disruptive in the usual way. He will become very anxious and have panic attacks if he feels overwhelmed in any way by his surroundings or work. This sometimes mean he will cry or become very withdrawn and unable to sit in lessons. Rarely he will explode but he wont hit other people. It will be closer to self harming. Also, for reasons related to his ASD, my son goes through uniform/clothes/shoes much faster than other kids his age. Quite a bit of his DLA goes on uniform where I buy at least one item a month. Often 2 items. Plus other clothes.

They wont let him take his phone to school. I was part of several parents across the country who tried to protest these rules locally and nationally but the education minister backed the schools with these rules. My son has to travel alone to and from school because I work* for a few hours per day. He can become overwhelmed by something unpredictable happening so not having any contact (not even by phone box as he cannot carry money) on his way to and from school is terrifying. Plus they issue same day detentions for up to an hour so I never know when he is leaving school. Same for a club or event. The Xmas auditions ran 1hour past time until 630pm and they did not tell parents so we were all wondering where our kids were. Nobody answering school phones and of course we cannot call the kids.

These two things with school always ringing me and him needing to be able to contact me means I cannot do my job. We are not allowed phones in the nursery and it is not practical for the school to ring the office as much as they try and contact me which can be every day.

I had a partner but we recently split because of money issues. We couldn't afford to be together legally and it is too hard to maintain separate homes and finances and feel like a couple. That is a friend with benefits.

A special school might be better for my son and I thought as much from year 7 but guess what? Cuts mean that because my son can do his work alright he isnt eligible for a special school. One man from LEA told me that special schools are for kids with brain damage in wheelchairs now and not kids who can write and read. All of those are moved into mainstream he told me.

So the cuts mean that my son has to go to the only school with autism unit which is defunct due to lack of funding but people have the knowledge of what should be done at least. However he gets no support there so they'll regularly need me to get him. Lack of funding also means that he cannot go to a special school because they are now for people more disabled than him.

All of these things mean I can only work 3 hours a day because the only feasible job I could find that just happens to be in my field was to do the mornings in a nursery as a NVQ level 2 employee. I meet him when I can but it would cost me £15 a week to do so unless I walked there which would take an hour out of the other things that need doing. Therefore I only meet him when it combines with some other task which makes the bus fare worthwhile. I still can't work in the afternoons though because I have to be "on call" for him. If he needs to be collected which he often does, even if it is at home time, they will not let him leave alone distressed or in a cab. So either me,his dad,or my recent ex has to collect him. His dad lives 150 miles away. My recent ex had to work all the hours God sends to provide for us all (he has kids himself). So it is me.

MY UC housing allowances does not cover my housing costs by £150 so that comes out of our living expenses. That's because the HLA is low, we are in private accommodation with no chance of local social housing for years and we need to live somewhere he can easily get to the places he needs to get to alone. This independence frankly means that he is more likely to put money back in society at some point. Moving would set us back and the nationwide shortage of services means that moving somewhere cheap and rural would mean he wouldn't get even the support he gets now.

Long story not so short we live on 100 pound a month ( including his DLA) after I've paid to not be evicted and to keep in contact with each other. That includes food, travel for me, clothes, treats, replacement furniture, everything. The only luxury we have according to budgeting sites is wifi but really my son would never pass his GCSEs if he didnt have good internet at home. Streaming off of a phone to laptop does not work well enough to access all the complex websites and programmes he has to use just to do compulsory homework. Good GSCEs means he will more likely earn money and pay taxes.

His dad gives CM but considering he has 6 dependents in his home, has bipolar and works "part time" according to them, it is barely enough for my son to have some pocket money for the trips he takes out with a social group of local SEND kids and the occasional treat related to his hobby which I use to get him to do stuff that he doesnt want to do and likely wont get support doing anyway because of the cuts. I mean things like completing assessments and exams. They freak him out big time.

I know this is pathetic and long but honestly AIBU to ask what do I do?

Every turn the Tories have cut off our options. I haven't bought a pair of knickers since last Xmas and they were from Primark and I'm literally praying someone buys me some this year because they are ripped and off colour. That is my life now. I'd love to go back to the job I trained so hard for given that I had a shit family who abused me and stopped me finishing school but the support just isn't there for me to leave my son. What do we do when BJ will just take more and more away and make it even harder for people like me who want to work but can't with such shit public services?

OP posts:
IrisAtwood · 13/12/2019 20:26

@Xenia I have worked full time without a break since 1983 including when I had babies (had 2 weeks off for each baby

You chose to work those years. They should not be imposed.

The sheer cruelty and lack of understanding on this thread is astounding.

Now I know why we got the result we did.

‘I bloody suffered, so why shouldn’t you.’

IrisAtwood · 13/12/2019 20:33

I’m playing cunty bingo and almost have a full card: feckless! I know someone on disability whose driving a £34k BMW! See a lifestyle coach! Take in ironing! You chose to have a child! Don’t expect the government to fix your own mistakes! Blame the piss-takers!

Alsohuman · 13/12/2019 20:36

Wow, who left the gate to the cunt field open in this thread? I hope you’re all proud of yourselves. You never miss an opportunity to boast about how amazing you are, do you Xenia?

Superfoodie123 · 13/12/2019 20:45

Wow the people on this thread

Tories really are a nasty bunch of selfish a holes and you've proved it here

Let's hope you never have the need to be supported by your government and your country turns their back on you

OP please ignore the comments of these heartless people. Breaks my heart that some of them are parenting the next generation

Mulledwineinajug · 13/12/2019 21:01

OP, I completely sympathise but politics aside, you need to assert yourself with the school here and fight for your son’s needs to be met. By law, they have to provide what is specified in his ehcp. The phone is a reasonable adjustment. As is you having yours in work (as his Carer you are also covered by the Equality Act). For those saying no nursery will let you have a phone on you, they have to by law and I know some who do in similar circumstances.

If the school cannot meet your son’s needs, you need to find somewhere that can and fight for him to be placed there, not just roll over and agree when they say no.
It’s hard when you have the day to day caring to deal with but you absolutely have to.

Mulledwineinajug · 13/12/2019 21:01

Also, there are some vile cunts on this thread.

Paddingtonthebear · 13/12/2019 21:11

Jesus wept, some of the comments. There are some truly awful human beings in this country right now.

HeIenaDove · 13/12/2019 21:16

"Fucking hell. You are presumably childless/child free"

Im child free by choice and i would never come out with something so nasty.

Inliverpool1 · 13/12/2019 21:24

Mulledwineinajug - safe guarding trumps the equality act. Saying that I’ve worked in small settings where keeping in contact wouldn’t be an issue, you just have to find the right company

taratill · 13/12/2019 21:32

@Grasspigeons

Thank god for common sense.

My ASD children are not a drain on society they are the future. Only they are not, because their needs are not supported. Son is academically capable of being in the top 2% but his needs cannot be catered for and he is sidelined.

That's an extreme but all of these kids have a value, only they don't, because they are a drain on our current government.

Its just awful.

GailCindy2 · 13/12/2019 21:41

It wont let me log in under my old name so I am back under this one.

To answer some questions from the audience (lol) my recent ex isnt on a high income because he needs to work hours which suit his contact. He earns enough to pay basic Bill's and car for work plus CM and money for the kids when he has them on weekends.

In his job weekends are where you make your money really but he has his kids on weekends and in holidays for longer so it means he doesnt earn as much as some other people doing his work. His ex is disabled and also on the bones of her arse so living here and contributing to the house like he was having to do in the end would have taken away from his kids. My son's dad claims his stepkids as dependents so that means I get even less from him and we don't want to do that to their mum. She was left disabled by a drunk driver just after they broke up :-(.

As other people have said if he moved in with me officially it would leave us both worse off. I have already been tricked by the benefit calculators and they already tell us it will be less money than I get so it would all be on him really and it just isn't fair. If I could work full time then it would be tight but ok.

It is a vicious circle of politics because my son is struggling so much in school because of the lack of funding. Of course I have fought with every breath in my body to get him what he is entitled to but the truth is that there are lower functioning kids than him in the school and they dont have the money or staff. Staff totally leave the job because they cant take being so powerless to do what they have been trained to do. So not only are there less jobs going than there used to be, nobody wants to stay in the ones they do have going. The school cant just magic up staff to be there and give the kids what is on their ehcp. There are parents who do not or cannot fight like I can and it feels terrible when you know that you fighting is just taking away from a child who deserves it just as much as yours. So not having TA support in many classes and it always being in small groups with other people who have SEND instead of 121 and they disrupt each other and every one else makes his crises more frequent.

Honestly I do odd jobs for cash in hand but it isnt regular because a lot of people I know cannot afford to pay people for those odd jobs any more. Especially closer to Xmas. Either they are not done or they do them themselves. The other problem is that my plan is to go into nursery management at some point in the future and if I got caught and convicted for benefit fraud it would go against me because nursery management involves access to money and funds. I know people who have been held back for fraud cautions. This is also why I am so careful about having a partner live here off the books too.

If I could work I would and always worked from 13 but I wouldn't employ someone who was as unreliable as me due to my son and his needs.

taratill · 13/12/2019 21:44

By sidelined I mean he has no education. Literally no school can meet his needs. No mainstream school can cater and SEN schools locally only cater for academically less capable children. He literally has NO SCHOOL to go to.
Tory councillor for education told me I have what I want by virtue of the fact I was not being fined for keeping him out of a hub with worksheets and massive anxiety with the threat of being fined.

No that's not what I want nor what he wants, a peer group and a safe education and access to mental health services.

Children with his ability who are neurodiverse have so much potential (as do those without his ability) but they are being collectively let down by an education system that discriminates by anything out of the norm. l

I'm upset. I have the right to be upset.

GailCindy2 · 13/12/2019 21:47

Oh and the school pointed us towards the education ministers quote to show that their rules are supported. Why a school would point to a Tory to judge what is right and wrong for them to do I dont know. There are no exceptions to the no phone rule. Of course I would be in full support of him it using it in school but just for journeys but no they wont allow it.

There is no chance of him getting into a special school of any type. Near or far. Boarding or not. I've looked into it when I realised that other local mainstream schools were not going to be better than his one now.

GailCindy2 · 13/12/2019 21:48

I stopped carers allowance because it comes out of your UC. They say it is exactly the same but some people advised me to do it because they got a few quid more in total that way.

Grasspigeons · 13/12/2019 21:51

@taratill - terrible situation. People dont understand how many children are failed like this or the impact on the whole family.

TheFormidableMrsC · 14/12/2019 00:48

I think you’ve been misinformed about carers allowance and as I said previously, I would seek a review of your situation via Citizens Advice.

gypsywater · 14/12/2019 01:04

@JeffreeStar fucking hell, that was low

gypsywater · 14/12/2019 01:16

@RozHuntleysStump
Why do you get a car worth 35k? Genuine Q

Illeana · 14/12/2019 01:25

It’s not the government’s fault that your child’s father is a deadbeat who has six kids and doesn’t work to support them. It’s also not their fault that you can’t work because your son needs you to be on call for him. Labour wouldn’t have just handed you a free pile of cash. In your shoes I’d be looking at flexible working from home via the internet.

confusedandtired99 · 14/12/2019 01:35

Wow, who left the gate to the cunt field open in this thread?

^^ Indeed.

Ledehe · 14/12/2019 01:56

Some of the replies on here are disgusting. I hope that you heartless posters don't have a fall from your ivory towers and have to see what the real world is like

Oliversmumsarmy · 14/12/2019 02:53

I can’t advise what to do about your ds’s education.

I have 2 dc, Dd is ADD and dyslexic and Ds is ADHD, dyslexic and has dysgraphia.
After banging my head against a brick wall (during the last Labour government) I ended up when Ds was 8 years old taking him out of school and teaching him myself.
At this point he couldn’t read or write but was expected to do the homework each night.

What I think you should do re working would be to put your nursery career on hold for the time being and get a night shift job.
As I suggested upthread. And let your partner sleep over and get Ds up and maybe even accompany him to school and pay partner a monthly allowance.
Which would give him some extra money and get you off benefits.

I don’t know how it works but I think you can claim some allowances that you can get regardless of how much you earn.

This way you can be on call during the day for your Ds.

I would definitely look into him being able to take his phone to school.
He does need to contact you and maybe if he has the phone then he might find his anxiety subsides a little

Ultimately the current situation isn’t working.

You need money.
Your partner needs money and
Your Ds needs an education.

I do understand it might on the surface not be getting into the career you want straight away but I think you do have to be realistic and a day time job with your ds’s issues isn’t working.

In a few years time when Ds has grown up you can go back to the career you want and be in a better position to concentrate on it full time.

I do understand that it might be a completely different mindset but if you can get your mind round it, it could solve your current problems.

user764329056 · 14/12/2019 03:47

This thread is a snapshot of all that is wrong with this country and is a perfect illustration of why we have another 5 years of Tory rule, it’s these disgusting attitudes that have sentenced us to it, smug self-satisfied people who truly don’t give a shit about anyone else and act as judge and jury from their ivory towers, try walking a mile in OP’s shoes

user764329056 · 14/12/2019 03:52

KTheGrey, you speak sense

Rosehip345 · 14/12/2019 04:52

I’m sorry OP but I just don’t get why you can’t do more to help your own situation and stop finding blame with the government, any government wasn’t going to just give you a pile of cash to live on.

I was having this exact conversation with my husband earlier and I simply don’t understand why people can’t help themselves a bit more.

We were in a similar situation which meant I had to give up work and cut our living costs by 50%, it was hard but necessary.
We had to move area, thankfully the support in the rural cheaper area was actually much better. I sold anything secondhand possible on Facebook, so no not an hourly rate but each quid adds up if you save it. I used it to by the big mascot costumes and hired them out at £30 each. I was self employed, I didn’t earn enough to pay tax but the extra made a significant difference to our home life and enabled us to save to retrain. I still only work part time but get paid enough to live well and pay a nanny to be ‘on call’ for those days, plus our living costs are significantly less in this area.

I have also found that an awful lot of people have a different opinion to what ‘basic’ living is to me. Rent, bills, bulk cook food and secondhand everything else.

Things will and do get better, but only if you’re determined to help yourself.
Nobody else is going to.