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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ask Tory voters what I do now.

434 replies

GailCindy · 13/12/2019 11:21

I have a son who has SEND issues. I am trained as a senior nursery practitioner and have done a lot of courses to back up my college NVQs so I can look after children with quite severe disabilities in a range of settings but I like nurseries. On paper I could get a job for about 25k quite easily.

My son is 14 and has SEND issues. I worked full time until he was 12 and half way in year 7 when it became impossible to work and be a mother to him. Over the past 3-4 years, his support in school has dwindled so he now gets 10% of what is on his EHCP and none of it is 1v1. It is all in small groups which is better than nothing but not if it is only for 2 of 25+ periods he has in a week. My son is not violent or disruptive in the usual way. He will become very anxious and have panic attacks if he feels overwhelmed in any way by his surroundings or work. This sometimes mean he will cry or become very withdrawn and unable to sit in lessons. Rarely he will explode but he wont hit other people. It will be closer to self harming. Also, for reasons related to his ASD, my son goes through uniform/clothes/shoes much faster than other kids his age. Quite a bit of his DLA goes on uniform where I buy at least one item a month. Often 2 items. Plus other clothes.

They wont let him take his phone to school. I was part of several parents across the country who tried to protest these rules locally and nationally but the education minister backed the schools with these rules. My son has to travel alone to and from school because I work* for a few hours per day. He can become overwhelmed by something unpredictable happening so not having any contact (not even by phone box as he cannot carry money) on his way to and from school is terrifying. Plus they issue same day detentions for up to an hour so I never know when he is leaving school. Same for a club or event. The Xmas auditions ran 1hour past time until 630pm and they did not tell parents so we were all wondering where our kids were. Nobody answering school phones and of course we cannot call the kids.

These two things with school always ringing me and him needing to be able to contact me means I cannot do my job. We are not allowed phones in the nursery and it is not practical for the school to ring the office as much as they try and contact me which can be every day.

I had a partner but we recently split because of money issues. We couldn't afford to be together legally and it is too hard to maintain separate homes and finances and feel like a couple. That is a friend with benefits.

A special school might be better for my son and I thought as much from year 7 but guess what? Cuts mean that because my son can do his work alright he isnt eligible for a special school. One man from LEA told me that special schools are for kids with brain damage in wheelchairs now and not kids who can write and read. All of those are moved into mainstream he told me.

So the cuts mean that my son has to go to the only school with autism unit which is defunct due to lack of funding but people have the knowledge of what should be done at least. However he gets no support there so they'll regularly need me to get him. Lack of funding also means that he cannot go to a special school because they are now for people more disabled than him.

All of these things mean I can only work 3 hours a day because the only feasible job I could find that just happens to be in my field was to do the mornings in a nursery as a NVQ level 2 employee. I meet him when I can but it would cost me £15 a week to do so unless I walked there which would take an hour out of the other things that need doing. Therefore I only meet him when it combines with some other task which makes the bus fare worthwhile. I still can't work in the afternoons though because I have to be "on call" for him. If he needs to be collected which he often does, even if it is at home time, they will not let him leave alone distressed or in a cab. So either me,his dad,or my recent ex has to collect him. His dad lives 150 miles away. My recent ex had to work all the hours God sends to provide for us all (he has kids himself). So it is me.

MY UC housing allowances does not cover my housing costs by £150 so that comes out of our living expenses. That's because the HLA is low, we are in private accommodation with no chance of local social housing for years and we need to live somewhere he can easily get to the places he needs to get to alone. This independence frankly means that he is more likely to put money back in society at some point. Moving would set us back and the nationwide shortage of services means that moving somewhere cheap and rural would mean he wouldn't get even the support he gets now.

Long story not so short we live on 100 pound a month ( including his DLA) after I've paid to not be evicted and to keep in contact with each other. That includes food, travel for me, clothes, treats, replacement furniture, everything. The only luxury we have according to budgeting sites is wifi but really my son would never pass his GCSEs if he didnt have good internet at home. Streaming off of a phone to laptop does not work well enough to access all the complex websites and programmes he has to use just to do compulsory homework. Good GSCEs means he will more likely earn money and pay taxes.

His dad gives CM but considering he has 6 dependents in his home, has bipolar and works "part time" according to them, it is barely enough for my son to have some pocket money for the trips he takes out with a social group of local SEND kids and the occasional treat related to his hobby which I use to get him to do stuff that he doesnt want to do and likely wont get support doing anyway because of the cuts. I mean things like completing assessments and exams. They freak him out big time.

I know this is pathetic and long but honestly AIBU to ask what do I do?

Every turn the Tories have cut off our options. I haven't bought a pair of knickers since last Xmas and they were from Primark and I'm literally praying someone buys me some this year because they are ripped and off colour. That is my life now. I'd love to go back to the job I trained so hard for given that I had a shit family who abused me and stopped me finishing school but the support just isn't there for me to leave my son. What do we do when BJ will just take more and more away and make it even harder for people like me who want to work but can't with such shit public services?

OP posts:
Leighhalfpennysthigh · 13/12/2019 14:50

The OP is sadly correct about specialist provision these days - I'm an SEND governor and do lots of voluntary work with children with additional needs, in particular those on the autistic spectrum. Specialist provisions in many areas are non-existent and have very tight eligibility criteria which, unfortunately, it sounds like your son doesn't meet. In the rare cases where the child does need specialist provision then it can cost the LA £100's of thousands to send them - which many can't afford. So mainstream it is, except many LAs can't actually afford to fund EHCPs and so the burden falls on the school until the LA finds the money.

OP: your problem is that you started this thread asking Tory voters directly. If any of them had any sense of decency then they wouldn't have voted in a lying, cheating scumbag.

Leighhalfpennysthigh · 13/12/2019 14:53

Fucking hell. You are presumably childless/child free.

Erm, I'm childless and I have the utmost sympathy and empathy for the OP. Please don't make assumptions like this. Some people are cunts. Some of those cunts have children.

Thelnebriati · 13/12/2019 14:53

Its so sad to see people posting who mean well, but just don't get the safety net no longer exists. Its gone.
There is no funding for SEN kids at school. There is no benefits safety net.

Its not that OP is too gormless to calculate what benefits she is entitled to or doesn't make enough of a fuss about getting whats rightfully hers.

There have been 2 political parties in opposition for a decade but they are busy with other matters, and they support austerity.

Fairenuff · 13/12/2019 14:57

OP that sounds tough. What does 'We couldn't afford to be together legally' mean?

KilljoysDutch · 13/12/2019 15:00

OP I'm sorry to hear things are so poor for you and I fully sympathise. I have severe MH conditions and I'd love nothing more than to be well enough to work and funnily enough one of my conditions is actually considered to be curable with the right help but the helps not there, even calling up the crisis team suicidal they don't care, they can't help, tell me to self refer but my problems are too severe to get help from those places. I'm not sure I'll survive another 5 years but it kind of feels like that's what is wanted a cull of the poor and disabled.
Also please ignore @JeffreeStar they've consistently proven themselves to be a nasty a piece of work as the racist they named themselves for.

carly2803 · 13/12/2019 15:01

i hear you OP

but im also with the people who dont get any help whatsoever with their rent, who have mortgages and their circumstances change.

People where i am (poorer towns) get their full rent paid. That work,jobs on the side etc, they areNOT rich but much much better off doing this. (yes i know illegal but needs much yakno?)

i have sympathy, but it lacks, towards people who get full rent paid, can change it and do nothing about it.

p.s im a single mum, retraining and work f-cking hard to provide for my kids. I know how hard it is.

KilljoysDutch · 13/12/2019 15:02

@Fairenuff the benefits system reduces the amount of money you get when you are living with a partner, even removing it completely if your partner works too many hours. Single parents are paid more than couples so OP could illegally claim to be single while living with her partner to receive more in benefits.

FAQs · 13/12/2019 15:03

The help in schools, it’s supposed to be coming, we shall see ...

To ask Tory voters what I do now.
caringcarer · 13/12/2019 15:04

Ask if you can take an advocate into ECHP Annual Review with you. I have been in with two friends by their invitation and challenged school on why provisions named in plan were not being implemented. If your son is being made more anxious by not being allowed to carry phone then school should resolve this by allowing him to carry phone to school and hand in to office and collect before leaving school. Get this stated on his plan. You can also request a psychological review. Anything they state your son needs should be included on his plan also so small group teaching, additional learning aids etc.

You do not state if you get child support from child's father. The father should contribute not just financially but emotionally and practically too. Could he not look after your son one day each weekend so you could work?

If you are trained in childcare could you not do some child minding whilst your son is at school? Look into registration.

You do not sound pro-active OP. Could you not do some work in school holidays? Could you tutor children one evening a week? There are GCSE childcare qualifications you could probably tutor.

Finally Boris has said he is putting more money into SEND children and if you live outside of London the education budget is being adjusted so children all over the country get a little more money for education.

Grasspigeons · 13/12/2019 15:47

I think a lot of you need to read the results of the Education Select Committee Inquiry. It was publisheed in october. Its a cross party look at SEND education awaiting government response. It makes a number of recommendations and highlights some significant issues with a system that is failing children. My own conservative MP has agreed that they need to be dealt and the conservative manifesto mentions a few of these issues and extra funding for them.
So OP isnt imagining a system is in crisis. It is. There are many parents spending years and thousands on enforcing ehcps.

Fairenuff · 13/12/2019 15:52

the benefits system reduces the amount of money you get when you are living with a partner, even removing it completely if your partner works too many hours

Presumably this is because of the extra income coming into the household though. Which makes sense doesn't it? Money coming in from earnings rather than benefits?

IrisAtwood · 13/12/2019 16:24

@RozHuntleysStump I can feed my family of 15 on one turnip and a Bisto cube. They all say that it is delicious, we always have plenty of leftovers and none of them ever complain about hunger or boredom with the diet.
No sirree, life on benefits in my house is like living in a 5* hotel.

DishingOutDone · 13/12/2019 17:16

You've got BISTO IrisAtwood?! Bloody luxury. I hope you are deserving.

DishingOutDone · 13/12/2019 17:18

Actually if Boris knew people like @IrisAtwood are buying bloody Bisto with their benefits then he'd personally want to whip them by hand. Gravy scroungers.

WiseUpJanetWeiss · 13/12/2019 17:19

Erm, I'm childless and I have the utmost sympathy and empathy for the OP. Please don't make assumptions like this. Some people are cunts. Some of those cunts have children

Leigh I really didn’t mean to imply that someone childless could not empathise with the OP, and I’m so sorry it came across that way. Flowers or Gin, or both if you prefer. I really shouldn’t post while furious.

My comment was aimed at a PP who said that people shouldn’t have children if they can’t afford to support them, completely disregarding the fact that any one of us could find ourselves in OP’s situation. Taking her point to its logical conclusion, no-one should have children unless they are extremely rich.

I completely agree with your last two sentences.

Leighhalfpennysthigh · 13/12/2019 17:27

@WiseUpJanetWeiss I'll take both and share them with you. You're right to be furious. We should all be furious at how the OP has been patronised and insulted and some of the utterly ridiculous suggestions like life coaches along with the good old MN take in ironing.

The reality of people's lives is that making massive changes is nit possible and if any of the more idiotic posters on here knew anything about children, and adults, with ASD they would know just how ducking difficult it is for those children (and adults) to cope with any changes to their routine.

Kinsellahicks · 13/12/2019 17:39

@RozHuntleysStump There is a cap on motability of £29,500 car value so either you are mistaken or spreading misinformation

JamesBlonde1 · 13/12/2019 17:44

On the bright side you only have a couple of years and then you can work full-time and therefore have enough money for extras.

KenDodd · 13/12/2019 17:48

I'm sorry op but Tory voters don't give a shit about you or your child.

WiseUpJanetWeiss · 13/12/2019 17:51

We should all be furious at how the OP has been patronised and insulted and some of the utterly ridiculous suggestions like life coaches along with the good old MN take in ironing

This.

WrongKindOfFace · 13/12/2019 18:02

Have you applied for a discretionary housing payment from your council? They are usually time limited (maybe six months) but it would help a bit.

And if you haven’t already done so apply for a council tax reduction from the council.

And yes I agree that you need to hold the school to account in relation to the echp.

Also, you should have a work allowance of £287 applied before they make any deductions for wages, plus a carer’s premium of (approx) £160 added each month. You don’t need to claim carer’s allowance to get the carer premium.

I’m sorry things are so tough right now.

pinboard · 13/12/2019 18:14

I hear you OP!

'nothing to do with politics'

FFS! Angry

Marleyisme · 13/12/2019 18:17

I am confused. You get that much in benefits, you and your dp (who works full time) would be worse off if you lived together?

So you get at least the equivalent of his wage, plus more to make up the difference between having 2 sets of Bill's?

That cant ne right.

WorldsOnFire · 13/12/2019 18:26

We should all be furious at how the OP has been patronised and insulted and some of the utterly ridiculous suggestions like life coaches along with the good old MN take in ironing

🤔 Not really- I think most people assume you’re looking for solutions not just to complain so why should OP (or anyone else) take offence to solutions being suggested.
As I said in PP - my DM found all sorts of ways to work (mainly from home) whilst caring for my unwell and disabled sibling.

The OP seems unhappy she can’t work in her specific field, in a regular hours job, which is a reality for many many parents in the U.K. (SEND or not).

The situation the OP is in is not ideal and no it’s not ‘ok’ but the lack of funding and dire circumstances are a reality all over the U.K. and has been for a long while, my sibling was hugely let down by the education system and it’s been over 5 years since they left school. The whole system is overstretched and being perpetually outraged does nothing to sort it.

45andfine · 13/12/2019 18:38

I'm a teacher and earn £20pa, I don't think some people understand how little the vast majority of the population actually earn.

I don't have any real solutions I'm afraid, but sending you lots of love and support.

Some people on here have come up with some possible solutions, but my only advice would be to focus on the things you do have, the things you love, the things you can be grateful for.

Worrying about money or making more money, or worrying that you don't have enough, just makes the situation worse. Believe from the bottom of your heart that you have plenty and you will have plenty.

Don't feel obliged to work, your son needs you way more than society needs you to work.

Don't try and compare yourself to others, you're here leading the best life that you can.

Be strong, be proud ❤️