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To think Boris' speech will upset the hard right?

64 replies

RedandYellowSunrise · 13/12/2019 07:29

Just listening to Boris now, he seems very centralist. Could it be better than first thought?

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Bluntness100 · 13/12/2019 07:35

From what I understand he is a very moderate politician. I suspect the whole palava over brexit, which was handled badly, as he tried to get it done, hid that fact.

RedandYellowSunrise · 13/12/2019 07:39

Bluntness100 I'm going to hold on tight to that thought, his speech certainly wasn't bleak. Yes it maybe lies but whoever came to power would have to show that they were telling the truth through their actions.

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Bluntness100 · 13/12/2019 07:42

Agree, now they need to deliver on their promises.

Andysbestadventure · 13/12/2019 07:44

Conservatives are the new Centrist/slight right party. That's why they were so popular.

When Labour swung so hard left, the right leaning party was pulled to center to appeal to those left in the middle, whether they wanted to be there or not.

Conservatives have done this very well. They played a good game.

RancidOldHag · 13/12/2019 07:45

Are you Hard Right, op? If so, are you upset?

Or is this just hypothesising?

Yes, I know that sounds a bit snippy. But I'm not sure about inventing issues (when there's enough to consider that's actually happening)

MirandaWest · 13/12/2019 07:48

Might he not be trying to appeal to as many people as possible?

poltergust · 13/12/2019 08:05

Look at his time as the Mayor of London. I don't think he is a hard right politician.

Brefugee · 13/12/2019 08:15

Conservatives are the new Centrist/slight right party

hahahahaha I just popped a rib

wondering7777 · 13/12/2019 08:16

Time will tell OP. I very much hope you are right!

Oohaye · 13/12/2019 08:22

Conservatives aren’t far right. Nowhere near. Boris will see this as an opportunity and I think he’ll do well. Very well. He’ll want to keep these voters.

Logjam · 13/12/2019 08:24

From what I understand Boris is a self serving asshole - so who knows, what will suit Boris.

EntropyRising · 13/12/2019 08:27

Boris has never been far-right, however it has been proven that he will be far right in the future. Wink

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 13/12/2019 08:35

Boris is not far right and he is no longer in hoc to the ERG. I am looking for a more centrist approach.

echt · 13/12/2019 08:36

From what I understand Boris is a self serving asshole - so who knows, what will suit Boris

This.

kingsassassin · 13/12/2019 08:39

All Boris cares about is himself. Now that he has power he will want to hang onto it, which probably means bring more centrist than many in his party would like.

Unfortunately for them (fortunately for the rest of us) by winning a majority he's untouchable by a challenger for the next 5 years.

Equanimitas · 13/12/2019 08:43

The one thread of hope in this result is that Johnson no longer has to placate the hard rights, and he will have a lot of Northern MPs on his back conscious that they will lose their seats if the new government takes a hard right line.

I do hope that he recognises the fact that he had to hide Rees-Mogg throughout the election and boots him out of the cabinet.

Neolara · 13/12/2019 08:46

But he just lies constantly, so I wouldn't necessarily give anything he says much credence. I think, as others have said, his huge majority means that he does not have to be as beholden to the ERG which might allow him to be more centerist in his approach. However, his main political principal seems to be doing whatever gets him into power and keeps him there, so I think he could go anywhere with his policies.

GCAcademic · 13/12/2019 08:54

I suggest that anyone who considers themselves a centrist joins the Conservative party and holds them to their promises. All the parties have been taken over by extremists and we need to pull things back to a position where politics can have a more unifying effect instead of polarising people. Conservative MPs now have to represent constituents in areas with serious problems, not just leafy Surrey. I think there is some hope, but they can’t be allowed to become complacent and arrogant on the strength of their majority.

WatchingTheMoon · 13/12/2019 08:54

God anyone who thinks the Tories are hard right needs to do some reading up on international politics.

They are the epitome of centre right.

Genevieva · 13/12/2019 08:59

Boris Johnson always has been centrist. Anyone who has been watching politics with dispassionate interest, rather than believing the slurs propagated by the left and right wing media . His election campaign was banal and centrist. He banned Rees Mogg from the air waves. Now he has a massive majority he won't have to listen to the ERG hard right of his party. Many of the new MPs in former Labour constituencies are down to earth people who their constituents can relate to. Interesting times.

Laiste · 13/12/2019 09:01

The fact that Boris is primarily concerned about himself and his own image rather than having any deeply held political convictions will be good news for the people. He'll want to be popular and do popular things.

soulrunner · 13/12/2019 09:02

For all his faults, he's pretty shrewd. He's got a lot more wriggle room within his own party than he had. I think he'll be pretty moderate. Brexit likely to be difficult and he'll need some popular policies to get him through the next GE.

SciFiRules · 13/12/2019 09:02

Jacob rees mogg is not a moderate. Priti Patel is no moderate either. I'm a remainer and centre left in my politics. I wish I could have voted Labour or that the LD had been more successful at capturing other votes like mine.

yolofish · 13/12/2019 09:06

I seem to remember T.May being all reasonable in her post election speech, talking about the JAMs and working together. That went really well.

EntropyRising · 13/12/2019 09:06

God anyone who thinks the Tories are hard right needs to do some reading up on international politics.

Particularly the continent, which is meant to be the moderating force to Britain's 'wave of fascism'. Grin

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