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Laura Kuensburg again....

136 replies

chomalungma · 11/12/2019 16:28

She has been talking about the postal votes and how they look for the Labour party.

Either it's misinformation she's been given, or she is just telling what she knows.

Either way, she should know the law about postal votes.

"Anyone attending a postal vote opening session has a duty to maintain secrecy. Ballot papers will be kept face down throughout a postal vote opening sessio"

"It may be an offence to communicate any information obtained at postal vote opening sessions, including about votes cast, before a poll has closed. Anyone with information to suggest this has happened should report it immediately to the police"

She should be aware of the rules and know when to keep quiet. I would have thought that since she had been caught out recently with tweeting fake news from Conservative sources, she would have been more careful.

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lljkk · 11/12/2019 19:44

At the real count (tomorrow) people will be standing, trying to quickly scan the votes on individual ballots while the poll clerks do the first round of counting which is a checksum against what went into the boxes at polling station. I know one teller personally. She reckons tellers get a pretty good idea of the final result just from this early quick tally exercise before the votes are even sorted.

Tellers can also attend opening of the postal ballots (who knew). Postal voters tend to be more conservative than voters on the night, though, so a preview to take with caution.

Gosh OP, you really got it in for LK, doncha!

chomalungma · 11/12/2019 19:48

t’s amazing how often the woman and/or ethnic minority is the one who’s targeted

It's got fuck all to do with her being a woman.

She is a BBC journalist. She is supposed to be independent and impartial.

She is not supposed to break electoral law.
She is supposed to check the facts before tweeting fake news. Otherwise it gets reported as "The BBC says"

Being a woman does not excuse her - unless you think she should be held to lower standards than other BBC journalists?

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chomalungma · 11/12/2019 19:49

Tellers can also attend opening of the postal ballots

Have you read the electoral commision rules and laws about this?

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Breathlessness · 11/12/2019 19:50

I thought all the Corbynites would be too busy coming up with reasons why Labour’s disastrous election results aren’t the fault of their glorious leader Halo and John McDonnell to be doing another hatchet job on LK.

chomalungma · 11/12/2019 19:51

hought all the Corbynites would be too busy coming up with reasons why Labour’s disastrous election results aren’t the fault of their glorious leader

So no comment of the supposed impartiality of a BBC journalist then?

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Breathlessness · 11/12/2019 19:54

So where’s your Peston thread?

For such a liberal party Labour activists seem to spend an awful lot of time targeting vitriol at women. Even where both male and female Labour MPs have criticised Corbyn, the women are the ones who get the hate. Kinder, gentler politics ...

Breathlessness · 11/12/2019 19:55

Do you understand the meaning of impartiality? Or journalist?

marvellousnightforamooncup · 11/12/2019 19:55

Preston works for ITV not the BBC which is supposed to be balanced.

chomalungma · 11/12/2019 19:58

So where’s your Peston thread

Because this is about the latest thing she's done....
And Peston is not an impartial journalist. He does not work for an organisation that is supposed to be impartial. The BBC is.

But hey, it's ok, the BBC have cleared her.
Again.

www.theguardian.com/media/2019/dec/11/bbc-denies-political-editors-postal-vote-comments-broke-law

A spokesperson for the broadcaster made clear they did not believe there were any issues with the on-air comments. “The BBC does not believe it, or its political editor, has breached electoral law,” they said

The BBC regularly have had to clear her.

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ContinuityError · 11/12/2019 19:58

You could have a Raab thread instead of a Peston thread - he’s been hinting about postal votes in an interview with Michael Crick.

chomalungma · 11/12/2019 20:00

Do you understand the meaning of impartiality? Or journalist

Impartiality - not being biased towards a side
Journalist - check facts before reporting something as a fact.

See Yorkshire Post for reference

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/11/paper-story-jack-williment-barr-online-lies-yorkshire-post

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lljkk · 11/12/2019 20:01

Quote from Link I gave earlier is below... Which implies no-one should see what was written on the postal ballots. But I'm wondering if some voters put their ballot in the interior envelope facing wrong way, so some observers would be able to see some of the postal ballot marks. Where is the quote where LK said she had direct tips from people who saw postal ballot results? I can't find the exact words where she said that. only people insisting that that is what her words (about A) things looking dire for Labour & B) postal ballots are in already...) meaning she must have had tips to link A & B together.

When we count I'm always impressed by how neat (unfolded, uncreased) the postal votes are. Perfectly stacked. They haven't been folded & squeezed like on-the-day ballots.

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1.7 A postal voting agent is allowed to attend and observe postal vote opening sessions...
1.11 Ballot papers will be kept face down throughout a postal vote opening session. Anyone attending an opening session must not attempt to see how individual ballot papers have been marked. It follows therefore that keeping a tally of how ballot papers have been marked is not allowed.

chomalungma · 11/12/2019 20:04

I don't know why @breathlessness is giving out Guardian links.

Laura should have known better.
She is already on thin ground given recent events.
Then she does this.

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Breathlessness · 11/12/2019 20:07

She’s survived years of abuse from Labour activists. Get a new hobby. Why not try gardening? At least the shit you’re spreading would be of some use there.

longtimelurkerhelen · 11/12/2019 20:08

Yeah the BBC are so un biased that their presenters say things like "if Johnson gets the victory he so deserves".

twitter.com/SasJC4PM/status/1204820070536564744

chomalungma · 11/12/2019 20:09

She’s survived years of abuse from Labour activis

This is not abuse. This is questioning impartiality.

Do you understand impartiality and what a BBC journalist should be like?

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cardiffbird · 11/12/2019 20:12

Another BBC reporter today actually says ".....if he (Johnson) gets the majority he so deserves", the day before a GE

www.facebook.com/917165865086037/posts/1840381589431122?vh=e&d=n&sfns=mo

Breathlessness · 11/12/2019 20:16

It’s going after someone’s blood at the wisp of a thread of a possibility that there might be something not quite kosher in their social media conduct. I’m genuinely surprised there have been no pictures posted of her with a coffee in her hand in front of a no beverages sign on public transport.

Trewser · 11/12/2019 20:17

Laura should have known better.
She is already on thin ground given recent events.Then she does this

You don't own LK. She's not your employee. Stop being so ridiculously entitled.

WheresMyChocolate · 11/12/2019 20:17

It's interesting that the BBC says she's done nothing wrong but the episode of Politics Live isn't available on iplayer like usual.

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