If tomorrow the Tories/Boirs defeat the NHS

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Can they own up to a picture of a child lying on the floor in the NHS, and say we need better treatment for all?

The NHS is not sustainable. It doesn't matter which party is in power. Labour can't fix the NHS. This is not a simple funding issue, it's far more complicated than that, and will swallow any billions that are sent towards it with little change in output to show for it.

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The arguments about whether she should have taken a photo put me in mind of this because i saw the same argument being used in this case.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brutality-bedroom-tax-exposed-disgraceful-6302099

And here is the thread where the same argument was used.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2454607-The-bedroom-tax?pg=1

i knew i remembered that right because i commented on that thread.

This case made me actually cry

DF has been seen at a privately run, NHS funded eye clinic over the past few months.

2 cataract treatments done plus an eyelid lift!!! Apparently his eyelids were obscuring part of his vision so the eye surgeon offered him an eyelid lift. He looks 20 years younger ....(so not fair).

Did I say it was privately owned and NHS funded? Lots of the NHS is and run a damn site better because of it.

The damage is Tory cuts. End of.

No, it isn't.

The demands on the NHS are infinite. We could devote our entire GDP to it and it would still not be enough. Thank goodness people are starting to get this.

The NHS has got to be reformed.

I work for the NHS and attended a hospital less than 11 miles from Leeds a couple of weeks ago.

I am an NHS consultant, my wife is a local GP. Our daughter was septic and needed admission for antibiotics.

We were seen, diagnosed and treatment started within 40 minutes of arriving in ED. 9 hours later, still waiting for a paediatric bed.

One was eventually found 40 miles away. If this is how the NHS treats its own senior staff I despair for the service the general public might get without the inside knowledge and confidence to fight their case.

Because of my experiences, both as a father and staff member, I am absolutely no doubt that the NHS is underfunded, under-resourced and as a result care is being compromised and staff are demoralised.

Labour voter’s intelligence showing again. The NHS will be worse under Labour. Look at Wales.

All well and good saying the NHS will be better under Labour, but where's the extra funding coming from? Where are they getting these extra staff when there aren't enough as it is? At least the Tories can justify what they're saying.

The NHS is finished if the Tories get in.

Far more is finished if they don't, especially for those who work, someone has to pay for his ludicrous schemes.

The NHS has little incentive to improve and reform because it knows it will always be bailed out no matter how useless it is. When the economic crisis struck the Spanish health service improved because money suddenly became much tighter and they had to improve efficiency.

I have many friends who work in the NHS and have spent many hours, these last couple of years, sitting in various outpatients clinics with MIL. There is an prevailing atmosphere of 'entitled inefficiency' which gives me the rage every time.

The main problem with the nhs and abuse of a and e is because all gp surgeries are not open long hours 7 days a week and at weekends and evening ooh services aren’t adequate so people go to a and e

Don't think the government are lying about what's privatised/outsourced tbh.

Do most people care that there doctors and dentists are private practice? Do you go to private opticians?

Or are we on about Labour's massive expansion of PFI contracts during one of their private finance isn't that evil when it suits us phases.

Half the problem is people going there just because they can. I've been to a and e quite a bit over the last few years and was amazed how many people were up there for totally minor things which could have been dealt with by a pharmacy and so on.

If you put £100 billion into the NHS it would simply find new ways of wasting it.

ScreamingLadySutch I'm not quite sure why you think I or anyone else doesn't understand the free ambulance and correlation with silly calls. Or why you seem so angry. My partner's the first to say time wasters should be fined and ambulances should be charged because some people use them like taxis.

If you put £100 billion into the NHS it would simply find new ways of wasting it.
This.