Boris Johnson refuses to look at photo of child on hospital floor

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Johnson repeatedly refusing to look at picture of a four year old child on a hospital floor when confronted by an ITV reporter. After refusing to so much as glance at the photo, he then proceeds to pocket the reporters phone(!?) while mouthing empty platitudes. Here’s a link,but I’m sure you’ll see it on the news anyway..
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-nhs-leeds-hospital-floor-jack-williment-phone-photo-a9239041.html
Was he having a bad day? Nah, it’s Johnson to a T: a privileged, uncaring, unashamed bullshitter, out for number one. Does this man represent our country?

The point is that Boris Johnson reacted in such an unsympathetic manner and showed yet again that he lacks empathy.

It was the same when that policewoman fainted behind him.

The left are so deceitful . We are getting like the US

I don’t have enough battery power to list all the bullshit which would contradict your ridiculous statement.

And to be honest

The people originally behind all the fake ‘mother faked it stories’ On twitter has to be an extra special type of wanker

Boris Johnson really isn't coping, IMO. He's out of his depth.

The trouble with him reacting without thinking is, as proved in the past,it can go wrong. So he spoke about N Z-R and got it wrong - he's probably been advised not to react to things like people fainting or falling and to not respond to being out on the spot.

I also think it's time someone took on the NHs. I'm tired of having to feel grateful for a shit service because it's allegedly staffed by angels.

That's not my experience but we aren't allowed to hear anything but how amazing nhs staff are and how grateful we should be.

He’s good with a script or in the old days of tv and media briefings.

But he finds it harder in pmq and off the cuff stuff. Mind you not many politicians lately have been good May was better at pmq but still did the old line over and over again to media.

When there’s no script he goes off piste to such an extent he sounds unhinged. When he was speaking at the UN the mad crap he was coming out with was utterly bizarre and when he was talking about policing and insisting on trying to recite the piece that’s said on arresting someone - truly toe curlingly embarrassing.

@Puzzledabdpissedoff

Corbyn train gate was proved, by the train company, to be true and not a set up
www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/virgin-release-traingate-footage-proves-corbyn-told-truth-traingate/23/08/

Haven't rtft but needed to jump in and correct that for you.

Repeat: Corbyn was proved not to have lied about not being able to find a seat on a train

@Puzzledandpissedoffmy above post was meant for you, did typo in your name initially

Summary : corbyn was proved not to have lied about trains

I'm no huge corbyn fan, though he's clearly the best of the bunch IMO, but I can't stand this constant spreading of lies and I assume you don't like it either, so now you know the truth you don't have to be part of it any more. You're welcome

he's probably been advised not to react to things like people fainting or falling and to not respond to being out on the spot.

He can’t react like a human being without a script? He can’t understand that his reactions are not normal? The fainting police officer and ill child are not politically charged, high-stakes incidents like N Z-R, but having fucked up big time in her case, he needs a script to deal with someone who’s ill or faints?

Also I can't imagine a nurse ever saying the NHS is in crisis because of an ageing population and people misusing services

That's somethinging that's frequently said by all sorts of NHS staff actually, particularly those who work in EDs. The ageing population is one of the main drivers of the need for hugely increased funding

Glad the disgusting lies that it was a fake news story spread all over facebook were exposed.

Can see now why Boris's minders never let him off the leash if they can help it, and what's with so many cancelled appearances due to 'protestors' even if its five people and a placard.

I don't know, it would be interesting to know what his protection officers say about stopping to help someone injured? Maybe he isn't allowed to?

Also, yes I think he should have said I'll need to look into this rather than nothing but anything beyond that would be daft.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/devastating-picture-baby-waiting-hours-21061413

I suppose this was all a crock of shit too because obviously when your nine month baby is ill enough to be waiting in a & e as a parent it’s all about the political gains to be made

I read the photo was set up, who knows but his attitude was disgusting regardless.

No response as yet I could find but perhaps the Conservatives are too busy trying to wash the smell of bullshit from their hands following “punchgate”

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/09/matt-hancock-aide-altercation-hospital-campaign-visit

What's the issue with taking photos? I did although never shared it until now. People need to see it to believe it or they call fake news!

@PonderLand what point are you making with that? You have a phone that takes pictures?

@AllesAusLiebe I'm saying that in Leeds paediatric a&e there is not enough beds so they use rooms that are unfit for purpose. As the photo clearly shows.

There was no context with the picture so it was difficult to see.

It's just a personal viewpoint, from me. I don't think it's appropriate to take a picture of a sick kid and sell it to a newspaper. It's an infringement of the child's privacy.

It's an indictment of the society we live in that everything needs to be accompanied by shocking images before anyone takes any notice.

I'm by no means excusing the current government's attitude towards healthcare spending.

I wish I had taken a picture of my very distressed MIl during her 12 hour wait on plastic upright chairs at the BRI last month. And the distressed A&E staff who couldn’t give her the care they wanted to. And the distressed other patients who were affected by her distress.

I think a lot of people dont realise how bad things have got in the nhs until they have to access it. We had to take ds 22 months to a&e after he had a nasty tumble and cut his top lip very badly. We were in a childrens waiting room in a&e for more than 5 hours before we saw anyone other than triage. I was 40 weeks pregnant at the time, exhausted, and poor ds was shattered, we got to a&e at 7.30pm or so. I remember thinking when we were triaged that they wouldn't leave a toddler waiting too long, and there were signs up saying children would be prioritised.

5 hours later I ended up sitting on the floor, holding ds so he could get some sleep, because the bench seats were too small for me to sit on and hold ds, with my bump in the way, and he wouldn't lie on the bench alone. Once he fell asleep I put him on a bench and covered him up with a blanket we brought from the car. And then went and sobbed to a nurse to try and get him seen. The nurse who eventually saw us told me she'd finished her shift well over an hour before, and it would probably be another hour before she left.

I wouldn't blame any mother in a similar position for taking a picture and using it to push for things to get better. It was heartbreaking trying to care for my ds through that wait, he was in pain and scared, and he only had a relatively minor facial injury. Seeing your child facing suspected pneumonia and being left with the choice of sitting on a chair or lying on the floor is just appalling. We should be able to do better than that for our kids. If selling pictures to the media is what it takes to make that change happen, then I would do the same, it would be worth it.

@AllesAusLiebe ah yeah sorry! I did post about it but there's been a fair few comments since.

I understand what you mean about photos that are just used to get Facebook likes of a perfectly cared for child with no problems aired about the care.

I think when it comes to inadequate care then a photo/video is sometimes needed as evidence, just like people installing cameras when they're worried about care for vulnerable elderly relatives. I've seen loads of videos of the elderly been neglected that are sent to the media and then put on the news.

We sent our photo to pals along with complaints about various other things that happened during that hospital stay. If people keep their mouth shut and don't complain and only say positive things about the nhs then it's never going to change. They need a chance to learn from the mistakes not have them swept under the carpet or minimised because there's no hard evidence.

Owlsintowels
Repeat: Corbyn was proved not to have lied about not being able to find a seat on a train

Not necessarily;

At the time, Jeremy Corbyn said he was looking for "two seats together" to sit next to his wife - presumably they could have sat separately? He also had 'his team' with him and he turned down an upgrade to first class. Several passengers sitting on the floor may belong to JC's team.

The Independent have a timeline with the new footage:

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/jeremy-corbyn-virgin-trains-row-traingate-timeline-what-happened-labour-leadership-election-a7206936.html

11 August, 11:00am: Train leaves King’s Cross in London.
11:10am: CCTV captures Jeremy Corbyn walking past unreserved empty seats in carriage H.
11:11am: One minute later, footage shows Mr Corybn walking past empty but reserved seats in carriage F.
11:30am: Mr Corbyn takes a seat on the floor to record footage for a documentary.
11:46am: Mr Corbyn is then captured on CCTV returning to carriage H and taking a seat.
12:50am: The train arrives at York, its first stop.

Virgin Trains point out that reserved seats can be used by passengers if they are not taken - there is a sign above the seat indicating at which stop the seat is required. (This is correct - I have travelled on Virgin trains myself). Jeremy Corbyn and his team were seated before they arrived at the first stop.

It gets more complicated regarding the original footage and the 'new' footage provided by Double Down News in Owlsintowels' link.

New Statesman
"one thing the video doesn't reveal, and which isn't publicised on Double Down's YouTube channel or its Facebook page, is who is behind Double Down.Companies House documents reveal that one of Double Down's directors is Yannis Mendez, the video maker who was being paid by Corbyn's team to film footage on the train, and who pitched the Guardian the article. Mendez insisted that his friend, Anthony Casey, be given a joint byline under a pseudonym. (He was billed as "Charles B Anthony".) This is what the Guardian's readers' editor found most objectionable about the story: a paid partisan activist operating as a journalist, without his affiliation being made clear to readers."
www.newstatesman.com/politics/media/2017/08/did-mainstream-media-smear-jeremy-corbyn-over-traingate
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/07/fast-train-to-publication-too-fast

Reseaching further, I note that the trust had it's busiest day in A&E since April 2016. Peads "Beds" were available, but just not "opened". It is always tricky to judge supply and demand. The trust in question had a surplus of funds in 2018/2019, so funding does not seem to be an issue.

It would therefore seem more of an operational issue than a funding one, although of course, if it is your child on the floor, you would obviously be very unhappy.