Mouse or rat? Pic included

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Mouse or rat? Found it in the garden, about the size of a hamster

@JamieVardysHavingAParty mines definitely a rat identified by Jake the rat man.
Him and his mates are coming up from the sewers through a problem in our drains, up the cavity wall and into our loft and having a fucking party up there every night.

@JamieVardysHavingAParty squirrel IVF ha!

@DingDongSchadenfreudeOnHigh nope sorry definitely rats he's since caught three massive ones in the loft.

A rat, colour, nose and tail, a rat.

Was there an abandoned car near the trap? If so it’s definitely a rat as I read an article recently about how rats have learnt to drive little cars.

www.newscientist.com/article/2220721-scientists-have-trained-rats-to-drive-tiny-cars-to-collect-food/

It’s definitely a mouse. Not a rat at all

Well, it's OBVS a baby wallaby, innit?

Looks like a brown rat to me.

House mouse

Wahhhh..... At least your aware of them now and can get rid.

Because of the nose I'd say it's a vole

We had a wood mouse and some bank voles set up home in our garden, over the summer and the wood mouse was quite a bruiser. She'd carry leaves twice her size to line her nest and occasionally venture out to smack the bank voles in the chops or say boo to nervous newly fledged birds and show them what their wings are for.

Well, obviously it's a swallow.

The real question is whether it's an African swallow or European.

Poor mouse

Vole! My cats catch tons of these buggers! I had the exact same debate online when I first found one. Deffo a vole!

Looks like a baby rat to me (am judging by nose/ head shape and over sized front paws). Rats tails are usually, but not always hairless, esp if wild. It's definitely not a baby squirrel or a flipping degu. Nor is it a hamster!

@jamievaryshavingaparty That baby rat video is making me rat-broody. I am down to one as we're having a break from them for a little while (her sisters both died in the pst two months and she's over two and lumpy so likely to go soon before I get told off for keeping a loner) but I would love some baby rats again!

I love african pouched rats too, my rat breeder has two and they are gorgeous.

@fizzygreenwater beautiful agouti!

@idoallmyownstunts that is fucking amazing. I don't think any of mine would ever have been smart enough to drive

@UnravellingThreads

That, my friends, is a rat. Thank you and good night.

Or a yellow backed field mouse thingy my Bob. They have similar feet! Or a Rastamouse.

Many brown wild rats are lighter underneath though (despite what some pet owners here say). In fact, I can dig out a newly caught specimen to prove it, although a quick Google of rat will pull up hundreds of photos of two tone rats. I am leaning towards yellow mouse though now, give the feet.

I could be wrong but it doesn't look like a rat and I have two pet rats

Lmfao at everyone who thinks they know for sure! It's all in the nipples. OP get it out of the bin, and count the nipples. If it has 6 sets it's a rat, if it has 5 sets it's a mouse.

I'd say mouse, as it's nose isn't broad enough for a rat and the tail is thin. But it is a little decomposed already so it's already drying out a bit. It is definitely NOT a vole (they're tiny little round things) or a shrew (they have very long noses like a little anteater)

Either way, mouse or rat, they're everywhere. My house backs onto woodland and we gat loads here. Usually field mice. They're incredibly cute. But we've had mice, rats, voles and shrews in the garden from time to time. They feed the buzzards and kites that we have here. The little buggers will get in the house given half a chance too.

If you have rabbits in the garden their food will attract them in. I used to feed the birds but had to stop because it attracted the rats. The birds would drop the seed onto the floor. Also the neighbours used to feed their dogs outside and this attracted them too.

And if you put poison down when they die the STINK!!!

What a great thread. The pic made me strangely nostalgic for my childhood gerbil (whom my mother threw in the bin when he died. Cruel woman). Why can't it be a gerbil?

I do hope the vicar next door didn't hear my language

I wouldn't worry about it. At least two of the vicars I know swear like dockers.

So do I (I'm a licensed minister). Nothing in the commandments says "Thou shalt not turn the air blue . . . "

Let’s get this straight, you live in a house surrounded by fields, and have decided to place traps in your garden? Why?
Life in the cold winter months is hard enough for wildlife.
Whatever these 2 creatures were they both died a painful unnecessary death.
They were wildlife, going about their lives outdoors, where their habitat is, where they belong.
I think what you have done is disgusting. Then to take a picture of this little dead creature and post it in here? What the fuck does it really matter what you’ve killed. You literally could have trapped anything placing them outside like that. Our baby hamster has just had a small blob of peanut butter and a stroke and has now fallen asleep inside a sock. Why people feel the need to harm animals who are doing them no harm whatsoever is beyond me. Sick actually.