Fairytale of New York should be banned from radio

[Alrighteo]

This is from one of the UK tabolids

@Alrighteo

What was his point interestingly?

Still have no clue right to this day. The lecture was Human Rights law and I remember we were discussing an issue that had just been in front of the ECHR (Prisoners rights to vote - 2009) so totally unrelated! The lecturer made absolutely no reference to the song .

Maybe he actually hit on his playlist and decided to roll with it lol

@LoseLooseLucy Thank you for confirming I wasn't going mad!

He was Irish, but was born in England on Christmas day as they were over visiting family.
But he was raised in Tipperary until his family had to emigrate to England when he was quite young.

He won a scholarship to Westminster college but was booted out at 14 for drug possession.
He has lived many lives.

To be honest, I rather hear people sing from the heart, than some trained singer who hasn't live a day outreach of their silver spoon.

Mrs I am from now always going to sing "you taped over Taggart", not because I find t5eboriginak lyric offensive but because your adaptation is comedy gold. And any reference to taping over something makes me smile.

FONY is bloody excellent.

This is an example. The girl in the red dress has Mum and Dad still together, goes to a private school, studies music.
The other tattooed girl has a raw untrained talent and a pretty undesirable look to some.

If you saw the interviews with both of them, they're equally as nice and innocent. To me, equally talented. One lacks soul, one lacks panache.

@Alrighteo YES! That's another one I can't bloody stand.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz I agree, the Taggart line is hilarious

@Alrighteo yes you're very right:
DH was born in Slough.
His mum was Irish.
His Dad was Irish.
Is he British?
No, is he feck. He's Irish and that's that.

I hate the song, it’s so miserable it brings me right down, give me spade any day! But if people like it then it should be played.

Slade not spade!

Do we need to ban The Lord of The Rings too? The word "faggot" appears in that. You can't light a fire in the wilderness without one. 😁

Plastic paddies they call them in the north west. Plazzies round Skem way.

I love this song and it’s my sort of mixed up crazy Xmas
Try slow club Xmas tv if you want non traditional Xmas music

He lived in Ireland for 5 years. He was born in England. Of course he is British-Irish. He says so himself. But that is not important. Do you say that about other immigrants? Wow.

The Pogues used to do a gig around Christmas every year at the Brixton Academy, of which FONY complete with fake snow falling from the rafters would be the climax. One year I found myself waltzing with a very beautiful boy wearing a t-shirt bearing a union jack in the colours of the Irish tricolor and the legend "Plastic and Proud". Good times.

Jesus grew up in Africa after all

No he didn't, Nazareth is in Asia.

But every family in Ireland has an emigrant. Whether it's an aunt/uncle, brother/cousins etc. It had to be done. For the most part, people landed on their arses at first, but some really made it. Some just managed along quite nicely, but this song resonates with Irish people across the world. And I hope it resonates with other people as well.

That's very true. My grandfather had an uncle who emigrated to San Francisco, and, as far as we know, died in the 1905 earthquake. But my mum still talks about him now! You'd think he went last week and we needed to send him food parcels

Excellent piece from Libby Purves in The Times today

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/dont-silence-the-glorious-fairytale-of-new-york-gt20vx7s6?shareToken=23ea090c367b7118f076727d56224ec8

^ Jesus grew up in Africa after all

No he didn't, Nazareth is in Asia.^

You’ve forgotten the Flight into Egypt, which is in Africa

I hate the song, despise it, on my first Christmas in London I got horribly drunk and was in a right state this was playing on a "christmas cd" on repeat. Now when I hear it I think I'm going to be ill....

But fondue sets were known in Roman times.

Its beautiful and raw, it tells a story , that's all. He based it on his Irish roots, which included abuse, happiness, which then drink then turned to violence.
Think of Angela's ashes!
The word faggot is used in a cursory term, cheap and dirty, as it was used years ago, nothing to do with an insult to a gay person.
Its harsh, raw and very sad...but preferable to any cliff or sickly tunes.
(I do love all the classics though)

I was waiting for someone to bite Saskia but dingdong beat me to the explanation of Jesus spending his toddler years in Africa (Egypt specifically).

That video I linked to was children in Uganda doing a skit wondering whether Jesus saw crocodiles in the Nile like they do. No reference to northern winter festivals. Or drunk tanks for that matter.