Fairytale of New York should be banned from radio

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This is from one of the UK tabolids

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You think Ronan Keating's version is better than Shane & Kirsty's? Are you Ronan's mum?

Unlikely.
She died in 1998.

What I don’t understand is why it’s a Christmas song.

Because that’s what they wanted to write?

I love it.
I don't think it should be banned.
There is a lot more offensive songs out there.

Just lolling at the irony of a DJ called Alex Dyke refusing to play a song containing the word fagot. Maybe he should change his name too?

I am what some people might term as this particular DJs last name and I don’t find it in the least offensive. It’s not supposed to be nice, and as PP have already stated, fagot does not mean homosexual in this context. I love this song, it’s by far my favourite christmas song.

You think Ronan Keating's version is better than Shane & Kirsty's? Are you Ronan's mum?

Unlikely
She died in 1998

I am beginning to see why a song full of allusion and humour might confuse some listeners

I love FONY, and can't abide all these snowflakes who are offended by everything; it's getting ridiculous.

I am beginning to see why a song full of allusion and humour might confuse some listeners

I love FONY. It has particular resonance for me because it reminds me of someone who was a very close friend with whom I am now only in loose touch for complicated reasons. A big group of us had a get together every Christmas and this was our centrepiece. It's not December for me until I've heard it for the first time. Partly because of that association, but also partly because it just is, the "I could've been someone" verse is achingly sad.

I think it's a beautiful song. It's harsh and real and I relate to it. I have woken up at more than one Christmas, feeling lonely and lost, having drunk far too much - my drinking was problematic at one point. It describes beautifully how magical the start of a relationship can be and how the trials of a hard life and escaping into alcohol can just wear that out. I honestly cannot comprehend the kind of people that shudder at this song and witter on about how Christmas songs should only be magical and about snowmen and Santa for Christmas. I know would never have anything whatsoever in common with them and imagine them to be painfully dull.

Love Jonah Lewie as well. Stop the cavalry came out the year my dad, who was in the army, was away for six months over Christmas. It seemed like it had been written for us.

my favourite christmas song and remember watching them performing it on TOTP as a teenager just loving the tune. We used to change the lyrics to you scumbag you maggot you taped over taggart.

The lines "I could have been someone" and "you took my dreams from me" really get me. I personally think it's a very well written song.

I love that song so much. It reminds me of my life in London in the late 80s, dancing around our kitchen one Christmas with my flatmate (since departed this life). Both of us Irish, both of us living the emigrant experience.

I always cry and think of her when I hear it for the first time every Christmas. Ban it if you like, it will always mean the World to me.

Happy Christmas Shane, I love you baby too.

In Christmas 1989, my first boyfriend and I had just got together. First term at university. We went home to different parts of the country, and kept in touch by posting each order other the lyrics of FONY, a line at a time. It pretty much took the 3-4 weeks of the Christmas vacation to get to the end of the song.

Either cute or sickening, but wouldn’t happen now in the era of instant messaging.9

Brilliant song. The Sun going absolutely apeshit when it came out was totally brilliant too.

I like it and in the the context of the song neither faggot or slut are being used in the way they are now. Slut didn't used to mean sexually promiscuous, it meant slovenly and unkempt. My nan used to say it about women who didn't keep the front step clean or walked around in hair rollers.

I never really liked the song, but then this version was released, and now it makes me cry....

Apologies if I missed this having been linked to earlier...

I love the song, but even if I didn’t the thing that gets to me about banning songs is the sheer arrogance. What makes someone think that they, from their supposed moral high ground, know what’s best for us, the little people who apparently are so pathetic we need protecting from the damaging effects of - gasp - lyrics. No, thank you.

It is an adult song about despair, poverty and squalor set against Christmas as a savagely poignant counterpoint.

^^this

Agree it shouldn't be banned but I absolutely hate it.

Besides the depressing lyrics which no one needs at Christmas, it now reminds me of the tragic accident poor Kirsty Mccoll died in. Admittedly not the song's fault but combined enough to banish it from any festive playlist of mine.

So this unknown DJ thinks that Christmas songs should be about ski chalets?

Say what now?

He may be confusing winter sports with the birth of the messiah. You'd never get someone mixing up bobsleigh and Buddha would you?

If this link works it takes you to a video of schoolchildren in a slum in Uganda acting out an African Christmas Carol. Jesus grew up in Africa after all, with not a fondue set in sight. And it's cute!

www.facebook.com/childofhopeuganda/videos/2512665632393145?vh=e&d=n&sfns=mo

Of course FTONY shouldn't be banned. It's an acknowledgement of harsh Christmases or a cautionary tale depending on the life you're living.

My favourite Christmas song. Plus Stop the Cavalry, I Believe in Father Christmas, Ring Out Solstice Bells, and Bowie and Crosby singing Little Drummer Boy. Not actually Christmassy but anything from Steeleye Span's Wintersmith.

The rest can get lost.

So this unknown DJ thinks that Christmas songs should be about ski chalets?

Don't know if it's what the dj had in mind, but that makes me think of the video for 'Last Christmas', which I can't stand - naff, twee and cheesy, with lots of glossy, perfectly groomed '80s people in ski jumpers, and none of the real emotion there is in FONY.

@EmpressLesbianInChair @KeemaNaanAndCurryOn

Oh that is genius indeed. Thank you for sharing and bloody well done Keema (assume you are under a name change or over at Reddit but just in case to you love)

The very wonderful Helen Austin used FONY melody for this fantastic riff on childbirth. Enjoy

For those that cannot do links her lyrics are here (but it's well worth watching Helen perform it live, she has a beautiful voice)

You've bags under your eyes
You've got boobs to your knees
Your hand's full of poo and your bra's full of cheese
Your stomach is bloated your clothes do not fit
He still wants sex while you feel like shit
He begs for this favour not long after labour
It's like eating a meal after you've just been sick

And the boys at the office tell him I should give him what he wants
To this I say that they're a bunch of lalalalalalala

You bastard you cocked up it's you got me knocked up
Just cos you want me to have bigger tits
You're pleading, you're pining
Oh please stop your whining
You're not getting sex 'til the kid's 26

You say you want another child, another pregnancy
When you can poo a watermelon I'll agree

I could have been someone if you just hadn't come (along)
If I hadn't been so drunk and I'd said maybe
We'd be going out and stuff, now there's foreceps up my chuff
Pulling the head of a screaming 10lb baby

And the mums on Hornby Island* say keep breast feeding 'til they're four
If I do I won't have nipples anymore

And all the doctors told me that I'd need a stitch or ten
I say sew me up so I can't do this again.

*an island nearby with a reputation for being very wholesome!