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Fairytale of New York should be banned from radio

508 replies

Alrighteo · 04/12/2019 12:38

This is from one of the UK tabolids

OP posts:
RuffleCrow · 04/12/2019 18:22

It's an americanism 'faggot' (which apparently being bisexual i'm free to use whenever!) I have never heard a British person use it as an insult - even whilst growing up in the 80s/90s. Only 'tough-guy' men in american films ever seem to say it.

3catsandcounting · 04/12/2019 18:24

Allstar - I meant it's not a gay slur in the context of this particular song, which is what we're actually discussing.

FromEden · 04/12/2019 18:27

What about John Lennon and referring to people are "yellow and red ones" ? Why is no one calling for that to be banned? Oh yeah because that's not considered a yucky "irish" song.

Love fairytale of New York, but I have never once heard it on the radio here in the US which is a shame.

MzPumpkinPie · 04/12/2019 18:27

Ronan Keating and his watered down lyrics?
How the fuck dare that little gobshite even consider it ?
Talentless fool.
Whoever thinks he could make a better version of Fairytale of New York needs lobotomising

BlouseAndSkirt · 04/12/2019 18:31

donquixote where does BertrsndRussel call for banning it? She said it’s a fine song Confused

Questioned the history of the meaning of ‘faggot’, but that’s just questioning facts.

donquixotedelamancha · 04/12/2019 18:34

It's an americanism 'faggot' (which apparently being bisexual i'm free to use whenever!)

You are, but the wokestazi would like you to call yourself pangenderal from now on please.

Every time someone implies that biological sex exists Owen Jones sheds a tear.

EMacCoffee · 04/12/2019 18:34

So many of these songs were written in a simpler time... my partner and I were discussing "Baby, it's Cold Outside" just last night. It was banned from radio last year (certainly in some countries, I haven't heard it played on any UK radio station that I listen to yet - mostly Heart and Capital). Neither of us have ever been offended by that song either.

Lillyhatesjaz · 04/12/2019 18:35

It's just about the only Christmas song I can stand I hate sentimental nostalgia.

In band aid The line 'tonight thank god it's them instead of you' was in context very apt it was Bob Geldof reprimanding people for their complacency with the one aim of getting people to give money to help feed people in the Ethiopian famine. it was the original charity song made in a hurry for one purpose and the feeling around it was different than for any charity song since.

KnitFastDieWarm · 04/12/2019 18:35

What about John Lennon?

Good point, why do we have to listen to that abusive narcissist/shit father singing sanctimonious twaddle about peace and love at this time of year?

KnitFastDieWarm · 04/12/2019 18:36

Also, Santa baby is fucking vile. Creepy sexist shite

sue51 · 04/12/2019 18:36

Fairytale of New York is beautiful. Hands off it please.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 04/12/2019 18:37

I’m going to share this 2012 work of genius from KeemaNaanAndCurryOn.

Fairy tale of New York Mumsnet

It was Christmas Eve babe
Here on mumsnet
A poster whinged to me
There’s mumsnet royalty
And then we posted stuff
Into A-I-B-U
I logged onto my phone
And trolled about poo.

So often I’m logged on
I may neglect my son
I’ve started to suspect
I’m not the only one
So Happy Christmas
I love you Mumsnet
I can see another year
When I hang out here…

They’ve got threads that take off
They’ve got threads that just fail
But the worst ones for fighting
Link to Daily Mail
When you first flamed my arse
In a mega bun-fight
You said I’d get mentioned
By damned Matthew Wright

We’re vipers
We’re swearers
You’d best all beware us
When the thread hit one-thousand
We started anew
In chat they got lairy
All the trolls were quite hairy
and sometimes its scary
In AIBU

And the Folk of the MNHQ choir
were begging “please behave”
And the bells were ringing out
For Christmas day.

You’re a knob
You’re a grunt
You’re an atrocious cunt
Now its message deleted but you know I’m right
You credulous reader
You mad troll believer
Yes Its Christmas I know
But dear god you’re so PO

And the Folk of the MNHQ choir
were begging “please behave”
And the bells were ringing out
For Christmas day.

I’m just a knackered Mum
I’m not the only one
I lost a chunk of me
When I gave birth you see
And though I love my child
That moment they first smiled
I like to spend a while
where I can swear without you.

And the Folk of the MNHQ choir
were begging “please behave”
And the bells were ringing out
For Christmas day.

BertrandRussell · 04/12/2019 18:38

Now Santa Baby I would ban! Grin

Straycatstrut · 04/12/2019 18:40

I love it. I love that they wrote it for a dare! I also love all the old carols.

It's the screechy "SO HERE IT IS MERRY CHRISTMAS..." where they repeat the chorus about 500 times at the end that makes me want to lock myself away in a soundproof room until New Year.

It came on a Christmas compilation yesterday and even my 7 year old yelled Alexa, NEXT!!... Grin

IWorkAtTheCheesecakeFactory · 04/12/2019 18:41

You're an old slop on junk (I think)"
And
"You scumbag, you maggot
You're cheap and you're haggard"

And it's altogether a better version.

Christ.

You don’t deserve to hear good music.

Wendyasbury · 04/12/2019 18:42

It's a masterpiece & all the pc brigade can do one

CaptainMarvelDanvers · 04/12/2019 18:42

Only got to page 2 but I love the Pogues. Love FTONY but they are so much more than this song.

snowybaubles · 04/12/2019 18:44

For those saying the nypd band doesn't exist - anyone who's been in new York for new years eve or St Patrick's day parades will have seen and heard these splendid guys:

But it's not NYPD band, it's NYPD choir - they don't exist.

Wakemeuuuup · 04/12/2019 18:45

I love that song. I remember singing it in primary school and the teacher smirking at the swears.

I cannot stand the cover versions of it though. Christy Moore can just about get away with it but a big no to Ronan Keating and I nearly crashed the car when I heard Ed Sheeran wrecking it, he doesn't have the depth and rawness for it.

snowybaubles · 04/12/2019 18:45

@EmpressLesbianInChair

That is the best Grin

donquixotedelamancha · 04/12/2019 18:48

donquixote where does BertrsndRussel call for banning it? She said it’s a fine song

Really? In that case I apologise unreservedly. I didn't actually read any posts, I just presumed she'd called it problematic.

BertrandRussell · 04/12/2019 18:53

I just presumed she'd called it problematic.“
Riiiight. Hmm

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 04/12/2019 18:53

Has someone really said that the Ronan Keating tripe with its ridiculous lyrics is better than the Pogues and Kirsty?

Just when I thought I'd seen and heard it all!

AppropriateAdult · 04/12/2019 18:54

Sorry, I haven’t had time to RTFT so apologies if this has been pointed out already, but ‘faggot’ has been used in Ireland as a very mild term of disparagement, meaning a lazy person, since long before it became widely known as a gay slur. My father (born 1940s) would often have referred to us as ‘little faggots’ when we were growing up. In fact, once I was old enough to be aware of the other meaning I had to gently make it clear to him that he really couldn’t say that any more...

donquixotedelamancha · 04/12/2019 18:54

I just presumed she'd called it problematic.“ Riiiight.

That's some good timing :-)